Spotify: No more royalties < 1000 plays p/y

The Lounge
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sure, but 99% of music consumers are just not going to do that.

I mean, in other ways, having pretty much free internatioinal distribution is a massive plus for indepedent musicians compared to 25 years ago. and actually there are loads of advantages for DIY musicians and indies and perhaps these are the last throes of a cartel trying to shore up it’s position.

But ignoring absolutely everything else - the way Spotify pays means your money doesn’t even go to the artists you are paying to listen to. Probably not going to change, but still crazy.

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Be the change you want to see in the world :slightly_smiling_face:

Buy that album

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It is really crazy how hard the entire world tries to screw over small musicians and makes sure they make as little money as possible.

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oh, I do, quite often even on vinyl like a total idiot.

edit - in fact I just got a new record shelf, and it turned out it was exactly big enough for all the records that were either in milk crates or just piled up against stuff around the house.

so now I need another shelf.

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and when you buy a record at a record store? how much of that goes to the artist?
and from royalties?

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well yeah… that depends a lot on whether they pressed them themselves and/or how much they got screwed over by their record/publishing deal really.

:slight_smile:

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Thats why its up to us to support the artists we like.

I’ve bought so many of our fellow elektronauts bandcamp releases

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I found so much incredible music through this place (like your album which I need to purchase when I’m at my computer - can’t do it from the iPhone app). This community is incredibly talented.

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:heart:

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@m0ld im totally losing it/myself to your track “Particle Therapy” right now. So damn magical!

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The main office is in Stockholm though.

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If you have 1000 streams in Germany, you get 0,71 EUR from Gema … on top of 3,00 EUR from Spotify. So in 500 years one can buy a new Elektron Analog 4 … yey!!

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But if you have 500 tracks, it’s just one year!

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Thats the paradox, you need an A4 to get to 1000 streams…

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Sad Times we live in

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Nah, it had always been like that. Hardcore music nerds have never been the majority. Today is Spotify, before it was MTV, before it was radio… I’ve heard this sentiment many times before. Is the same shit, different year number.

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Now that I’m thinking about it.

Spotify messed up.

They should cut off royalties for tracks that get less than a million streams within a year

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I keep trying to tell people this but nobody listens… it’s because band camp isn’t a catchy name like Spotify… no matter how good band camp is nobody besides other punters is going to choose it over something that has the catchiness of 7/11… literally nobody would shop at 7/11 if it was called 11/7 instead, that’s just the way our society is… the name tidal sucks too that’s why it will always come in last place …

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I just wondering, everyone talk about spotify, a lot of people talk about bandcamp. But nearly no one talk about apple music nor deezer - at least in this thread.

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I mean, the reason is basically this surely:

if you’re not in France and/or in the music biz you probably don’t even know there IS a Deezer.