Sound dips out randomly Please help

Elektron Gear Analog Keys/Four
#1

The sound coming from my modular back in to my A4 dips out randomly when I engage (un mute) the bassline, all other tracks dont affect the signal input.

How my set up is.

Track 1 - kick and some percussive sounds.
Track 2 - Bassline. (Triangle)
Track 3 - hats and percusion.
Track 4 - input from my modular. 1st and only note length is set to infinity.
Cv Track - send clock and other info to modular.

This also use to happen when I used some kicks from the A4, the kick would disappear / come in and out.

Thanks in advance. :slight_smile:

Elektron analog keys issues
#2

I think its actually the kick that is causing the issue. :-/

#3

polyphony configuration was the issue

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#4

glad we could help LOL

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#5

Hello all. So I had sold my A4 , then missed it a bunch and got it back . I had this problem before but cant remember the fix. So if I have a kick and bass on one track and then when I add a strong sound on another track this weird ducking happens to the kick and bass track. Anyone know why and whats the fix ?

#6

Maybe the “strong sound” is overpowering the kick and bass.

#7

Tested more It happens when even other sounds are added. Someone told me how to fix it before but that was 2 years ago :-/

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#8

I have a similar problem. Kick, bass, synth, snare or 4 tracks. The kick is normal, then clearly low.
Maybe is has something with filter 2 high resonance because when I lower resonance the kick is low, and if I put resonance back it takes quite a long time to reach the same sound…
:zonked::tired_face:

#9

This behaviour is normal and well documented on here, the resonant filter just needs time to ring - often, even just having a resonant-filter kick, the first kick or so of a pattern will sound much lighter - not a bug, just a synthesis thing :thup:

Kicks are really low volume
Kick only fades back slowly
#10

Thanks. The problem is the randomness of it.
Bad for a live. Is sampling in OT the only solution ?

#11

It’s definitely not random, a resonant filter needs time and input to ring it

One solution would be to put in a faint ghost trig prior to the ‘quiet’ trig to get the circuit resonance started, it may not be ideal but it’s an option

#12

I don’t know what is a faint ghost trig.
Now for exemple I have my kick, a simple snare on another track, and randomly the resonance of the kick becomes very low, then increase slowly again. Not reliable…

#13

Nothing is random !

A ghost trig would be a faint almost inaudible trig immediately before the low one - put some noise into a resonant filter, when the real kick trig happens then that filter is already excited :wink:

It’s not a solution for all occasions, but it’s an option to explore that may help

#14

I understand your trick.
I’m not exited though. If not random, I’d say when I don’t want it to act like this…
:sob:

#15

After some settings I noticed the kick would stop if I reach 4 notes on the 3 other tracks even between 2 kicks (even with short note, no release).

If I turn polyphony off for the kick the behaviour seems normal. Hope it is the explanation but it happened even with only to mono tracks (other tracks muted).

Well, will see. Have to be carefull with polyphony settings anyway.

#16

@sezare56
If the Kick track is poly-enabled, then when the kick voice is stolen by some other voice (playing a chord), it’s filter settings will be changed according to the settings for this other voice. When the next kick occurs, the settings are reset for your kick sound, and the whole process of ‘ringing’ the filter has to start again. Hence why the kick appears to fade. Stick to mono for the kick track.

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#17

Thanks. That make sense. I set polyphony off but I surely reloaded the kit with its unwanted poly settings.
The slow rise of resonance made the feeling of a bug stronger.
I surprised that the voice was stolen because 4 voices polyphony was an 8th before the kick.
I’ll think about that in the future off course.
Thank you and @avantronica for clarifying what seemed really weird to me !

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