Sooo neutron or crave? (also dipping my toes into modular)

This seems very cool and very affordable. I’ll keep it in mind depending how my neutron experiences go

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Neutron is a cool little synth. It’s got a few foibles but it’s what it is. You can get around them. For instance the delay effect is in the final signal path and bleeds a bit of effect (and sucks a bit of tone) on mine but you can just bypass it with a patch cable.

Some of the overlays I’ve seen are really cool. Nice little mod is to swap over the big Lfo knob for the smaller filter frequency knob and some of the overlays cater for this.

What foibles are those?

Is it easy to pop off the caps and switch those knobs around?

How do I patch it in such a way I bypass the delay?

From memory patch vcf out to vca in but I’ve not used mine for a while and don’t have it to hand to test.

Yeah, I think they just pull off. The modified overlays have their markings laid out for the bigger filter knob if that makes sense?

I have a Boog and was wondering if it was possible to polychain it to some Neutrons. Thank you for confirming that it’s possible. This will be interesting to try out.

Some posters in the Reddit thread you referenced also seem to be indicating that they have successfully polychained Behringer synths with other manufacturer’s synths (i.e. 0-Coast, Mopho, Roland Boutiques). Has anyone here tried this out?

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And you believe in that yourself? It’s nothing wrong with 2 neutrons, but to say its comparable to Moog Matriarch is just a try to fool yourself.

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no, he’s not fooling :nerd_face:

To me two Neutrons are like a poor man’s Matriarch. I concede that the Matriarch overall is superior. The Matriarch’s filter section is in another league. Its stereo delay is also better. The Matriarch obviously sounds fantastic. But the Neutron has some additional functionality. The Neutron has the ability to select blended oscillator shapes and modulate the shape of each oscillator to morph between waveforms. Its tone mod waveform has a West Coast quality to it and sounds great. And its patch bay is extremely generous and flexible for the price point.

I know that Neutron is highly capable but I just thought that call it comparable is just misleading. But no hard feelings. It sounds nice that you can blend oscillator shapes and the CEM3340 oscillators sounds really nice.

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when thinking about the combination you‘ll earn a full stereo machine…filters, envelopes, amps, inputs, delay…

it’s capable

iam running my Op-1 Stereo output to both inputs of the Neutrons, splitting on my mixer to left and right. the combination of two or more explains the sauce like different delays and filtermods within the Stereo field. crazy Amp modulation and such

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I’d honestly really like to see a video of this setup. You should post one!

Crave and if you want to make your first steps into eurorack: Mutable Instruments Plaits.

Plaits can be connected to the “external input” of Crave and its pitch can be controlled via the pitch cv output of Crave.

Like this you expand the crave to a quite complex/advance mono synth with a super wide range of possible sounds. And for the beginning you won’t need to buy a modulation eurorack module as Plaits has internal envelopes for each parameter.

For a relative cheap price of 375€ (150€ crave + 225€ Plaits)

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For first steps into Euro I’d think he can get more out of Neutron + a small case.
Maybe indeed Plaits or Braids + modulation and stuff but depends on what his goals are.

Sounds like people find Neutron much better than Model D too?

oh my…

i’ve just spent some time with the neutron and i’m quite pleased with how it sounds. it seems every knob i turn takes me to some magical place. i currently have my octatrack sending MIDI sequence junk and the output of the neutron going into an Octa thru track with some chorus and reverb. my only complaint is that this unit is mono.

it just…sounds good man. and i haven’t gotten into the patching too much yet. that’s modular territory this subtractive boy needs to wrap his head around. i saw some videos floating around i’ll probably recreate when it’s not late at night like it is

i don’t understand the slew. i think of slew as portamento but it doesn’t seem to behave that way.

also can i get one of those “stack” cables and send the LFO to multiple destinations? is that how those things work?