(Solved) A different swing than the MD

OHEXOH · 2014-07-03T19:07:40.000Z

After ‘54’ onwards they go very out of sync with one another. Ach!

(EDIT: I realised my mistake later in the thread - please ignore this!)

Anigbrowl · 2014-07-03T22:18:02.000Z

54?

secretmusic · 2014-07-04T09:40:21.000Z

54 % swing value

Bobby_Vosene · 2014-07-04T12:28:42.000Z

Damn… what about the Octatrack? I only just got mine… havent tried swing with it yet… i just assumed all the boxes would have the same swing… I’ll try it when i get home.

OHEXOH · 2014-07-06T10:23:42.000Z

“i just assumed all the boxes would have the same swing”

Likewise

StinkyBeat · 2014-07-06T13:15:54.000Z

Do you have the MD midi synced to the AR (or the other way around)?

Anigbrowl · 2014-07-07T01:43:22.000Z

Yes, how are they connected? A recording might be useful too.

OHEXOH · 2014-07-07T07:33:19.000Z

My bad

I just did a recording and noticed that I had a swing step ON on one of my drum sounds which (naturally) sent it out of sync / swing with the others.

Feel like a doofus. Sorry for the confusion.

duplex · 2014-07-07T09:26:22.000Z

Doesn’t the swing do something strange when the sequencer is synced externally – like there are only three distinct swing settings or something? I seem to remember reading this on the old forum . . .

Maybe it doesn’t apply to the newer machines?

StinkyBeat · 2014-07-07T20:49:37.000Z

Yes, the MD only has 4 swing settings other than straight time when midi synced. I have not tested the AR yet.

bluewolfse7en · 2014-07-07T21:37:05.000Z

If memory serves the limitation is due to midi clock being 24ppqn.
Stand alone machines may run 48 or even 96 ppqn hence the increased swing performance.

Couple of interesting links

Attack Magazine – 2 Jul 13

Roger Linn On Swing, Groove & The Magic Of The MPC's Timing - Page 2 of 3...

How important are a few milliseconds? When it comes to sequencers, they can mean the difference between a perfect groove and a sloppy mess. We talk to

en.m.wikipedia.org

MIDI beat clock

MIDI beat clock, or simply MIDI clock, is a clock signal that is broadcast via MIDI to ensure that several MIDI-enabled devices such as a synthesizer or music sequencer stay in synchronization. Clock events are sent at a rate of 24 pulses per quarter note. Those pulses are used to maintain a synchronized tempo for synthesizers that have BPM-dependent voices and also for arpeggiator synchronization. MIDI beat clock differs from MIDI timecode in that MIDI beat clock is tempo-dependent. Location ...

Cheers

Anigbrowl · 2014-07-08T06:39:16.000Z

That Attack Magazine article is well worth reading. Glad this turned out not to be such a big problem