Which would be your approach on performing a transition between two different kits, the idea is not to use extra kits (like an hybrid kit). 
Looking forward to see some approaches.
best!
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Which would be your approach on performing a transition between two different kits, the idea is not to use extra kits (like an hybrid kit). 
Looking forward to see some approaches.
best!
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I use octatrack transition trick for this. It feels/sounds like a dj mix, especially with eq fx on both tracks
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[quote=" gbravetti"]Which would be your approach on performing a transition between two different kits, the idea is not to use extra kits (like an hybrid kit).
Looking forward to see some approaches.
best!
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I use octatrack transition trick for this. It feels/sounds like a dj mix, especially with eq fx on both tracks[/quote]
You mean:
- record RYTM live feed on OT.
- switch from RYTM live feed to the just recorded sample.
- change pattern/kit on RYTM
- perform on the OT a dj mix like transition between the RYTM sampled feed and the actual RYTM live feed.
Thatās what you meant?
Yes, as explained on many youtube vids ablaut āoctatrack transition trickā
Iām sure OP is asking for an ITB solution.
Use scene mutes and performance mode 
Sorry if this is a dumb question but what is a performance mute? Is it possible to have a scene mute and unmute tracks? Or does it mean affecting the levels of that track through a scene?
Cheers!
performance modeā¦ (not performance mute)
yes yoyo can mute unmute tracks with scenes, by turning the volume of a track down in the scene. so yes, to does mean what you say.
Yeah, mute either via any volume or by disabling element(s) from the trig page.
I think a morphable kit using perfs should be possible, as long as you manage to make it work with the 48 param max limitā¦ A helluva lot of work to set it up tho!
Reverb washes, of course. (only slightly kidding)
If you think of carefully configured performance pads as your ākitsā, you can transition with fluid parameter changes instead of mutes or instant changes.
Just freeze the performance state of a held performance pad by leaving performance mode.
This means the second ākitā simply becomes a frozen/latched performance state of the first.
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The sequencer does not record volume ? I tryed with the amp page, that is recorded, but it seems the level meters are not recorded?
i use a dj mixer, one channel for ableton samples and racks one channel for rytm one for a4. the last channel is for soundbite looper,i just send to the looper the stuff i want with sends, so i can switch from the track to a looped version. then i change clips and patterns so i can mix the loop with the new track dj style with smooth transitions.
this is the best solution for me 'cos i can scroll to the track i want next and i donāt have to follow any kind of scheme.
to arrange the traks i use a lot performance modes of both machines as a lot of macros in ableton live.
i also use a metric halo and MIO mixer to process the machines with some paraller comp. and character, out from elektron in the soundcard and then to the mixer.
ciao
Clever approach, IĀ“ll dig on this one!
Sound like the first idea but using soundbite looper instead of the OT.
btw IĀ“m working on a master scene device for the RYTM in MaxForLive.
It can save Level/Mute, Scene and Performance states that you can recall after, also if you have the PUSH controller, you can have the four RYTMās modes at the same time with real time quantise for manual changes and the possibility to sequence them internally o remotely.
If you are interested let me know.
this was my guess too, but i imagined it would be necessary to have compatible performance settings for this to stand up, havenāt tried, it could be useful, i also wondered if it could be useful to freeze (somehow, maybe via a performance overlap) the master effects, if you cranked up the symmetry the kits would start to sound similar (almost bit crushed/ducked) and restoring symmetry could reveal a fresh new kit - if it held performance values across a kit change it would be a huge feature - must try 
this was my guess too, but i imagined it would be necessary to have compatible performance settings for this to stand up, havenāt tried, it could be useful, i also wondered if it could be useful to freeze (somehow, maybe via a performance overlap) the master effects, if you cranked up the symmetry the kits would start to sound similar (almost bit crushed/ducked) and restoring symmetry could reveal a fresh new kit - if it held performance values across a kit change it would be a huge feature - must try [/quote]
The symmetry cranked thing could work too 
Now backing to transitions using the performance mode. It seems to me this could work if you know you will always make a transition from kit āAā to kit āBā. But if you have 8 kits and want to make transitions from any to anyā¦
If you want full combinational freedom (not only A > B), i donāt see many possibilities besides storing your parameter collections (=ākitsā) externally (M4L or Pd on desktop or lemur or MMP on tablet), and doing the morphs/transitions via an external MIDI inputā¦ Let me know if i can be of any help porting your M4L device to mobile apps, say, lemurā¦ Should have some free time in january.
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sounds great, i am fancying a similar setup. but how do you route your kick? i would like to have the ARās kick on a seperate channel.
I agree with you.
Just a question, is it possible to manipulate patterns content on the fly via MIDI/USB?
fwiw, like mutes, performance values are maintained across kit/pattern boundaries, but it does just mean the frozen performance value, not the attached parameter values, so if you needed continuity thereād need to be some between the performance settings on the same frozen pad - ps: not quite sure why the asymmetric param (even with zero dist) was so pronounced for me the other day, it really destroyed the sound in a lovely way, not sure itās a useful strategy, but the concept is useful with other params