Just picked up an analog four to replace my DSI Tetra. I assumed before buying that Unison Spread was kinda like DSI’s Slop control - that is, spreading the pitch of each voice when playing a chord to give a Prophet 5-style wonkyness. I also know that Novation’s new Peak has this.
Unison Spread doesn’t do that though, as far as I can tell. It’s for Unison only, not polyphonic.
Is there a way to do this?
I know I could detune oscillator 2 but that would occur identically on every voice so that’s not right.
I also think it’s possible to play Polyphonically with four different sounds on each voice? So I could set up four identical sounds with slightly different detune amounts. Sounds like a hassle.
I’m surprised there isn’t just a number to control this - have I missed it?
It’s pretty clear in the manual … (scroll down the Poly Menu)
UNISON DETUNE sets the offset (0-127) by which the selected unison voices will be detuned.
Decrease or increase the offset with the [LEFT] and [RIGHT] arrow keys.
UNISON PAN SPREAD set the width of the pan spread (0-127) around the center point of the
unison sound. Use the [LEFT] and [RIGHT] arrow keys to set the value.
Ah, OK … I skimmed over that bit too fast ! … Best bet is to set up a kit with a performance Macro to do this for you across four voices … it’d be easy to configure on the fly, but putting it in a kit would be a once only user configurable way
I guess they do, but timing is everything … you imagine there’s only one show in town these days, hang onto it a bit to avoid it getting lost in the DT noise … there is an official route, FRs here are amongst friends mainly
Yep, unison detune is a different thing. On DSI synths the detune knob is dual purpose. When unison is on, it performs a unison detune. Otherwise when not in unison mode, it adds slop which simulates vintage analog circuit behaviour, like a random lfo to the pitch.
The A4/AK can take you there and beyond, but as mentioned you’ll have to play in poly mode but ‘use track sounds’ and apply different settings for each voice…using performance macros will make it easier to tweak the patch without doing it separately on each voice.
I’ve done this several times and it sounds great. There are many ways to twist and bend the sounds. Adding different PMW rates & depth, vibrato rate and depth, detuning osc’s. That’s even before you get to LFO’s.
I did see that and turned it on. To be honest with the patch i was using I couldn’t hear a difference. I’ll give that a bit more attention though - it sounds like it should do what I want, albeit with a fixed amount. Thanks!!
If you want more “slop” than the oscillator drift setting can offer you could route a random lfo to osc pitch. If you set the LFO tempo to “1” and mode to “Hold” then every note you play has a slightly different detuning.
I didn’t even ‘know’ there was a 3rd env!? Ive probably used it in past when fiddling around but not something I’d put in memory as a tool One day I’ll sit down and learn WTF I’m actually doing
filter envelope + envelope 1 + envelope 2 = 3 envelopes.
and with 2 destinations for each of Env 1 and Env 2. So including filter envelope that’s 5 total envelope destinations for the 3 envelopes.
fwiw. ftr. it’s a dedicated Amp envelope [AMP] plus a more flexible Filter Env [ENVF] which has two additional destinations, there’s an entirely separate second envelope [ENV2] with its own two destinations … so six destinations … then there’s one shot LFOs if more ‘envelopes’ is your thing
One day I’ll sit down and learn WTF I’m actually doing 