This way, when the conditional is false, the preceding re-trig plays the “normal” trig.
This might be ancient news to a lof of users, but I had a small epiphany with it today. BTW, needless to say, it only works as expected if the sound at the trig before is the same(ish) sound.
Yeah, this is a cool idea. Here’s another way to do it - not necessarily the “best”, just depends on what you want to accomplish. Should work essentially the same with the added benefit that it will always play “one or the other” trig, never both, so no overlapping, can use different sounds if you want.
Let’s say for the sake of this example your retrig is “on the beat”.
Put a trig before the beat, but microtime it to fall “on the beat”. Put a conditional value on this one instead of the retrig.
Now put a trig “on the beat” and make this your retrig, but make the condition “NOT PRE”.
If you’re using random chance as your condition then all you have to do is make the “non-retrig” version ( the first trig) be the inverse random chance. Like if you want your retrig to have a 33% chance of firing, then put the non-retrig chance at 66%.
The only downside I think to this way is when using set conditions like 2:4, 3:3, etc. there might be some wonkiness depending on how you want it to work out. For example if you want the “retrig” to trigger on ONLY 1:4. Since you’re putting your condition on the first non-retrig, you can’t really do this, because it would result in: first non-retrig firing at 1:4, retrig version firing at 2:4, 3:4, and 4:4… if that makes sense… but what you might want is the opposite
Workaround in this particular case would be to add ANOTHER trig before the “non-retrig”. Make this new one a “trigless trig” (yellow), set IT to whatever condition you want to happen for the RETRIG note… then set the NON-RETIG note to “NOT PRE”, and set the RETRIG note to “PRE”.
Yeah confusing as hell, LOL… but definitely cool stuff to explore 
sounds like a big one to me - great tip, applicable to other boxes too
Almost every time I want to use a re-trig I want to use it conditionaly in place of already existing basic trig. I hope there is a way to acomplish this without doubling or quadrupling the pattern length.
I’m not clear on whether this discusion has the solution described. I will try tomorrow.
Ok here you go:
Say your conditional re-triggering trig is set on step 9 of sample track 1. Go to sample track 2, which is using a different sample. Select step 9 of sample track 2, and lock the sample used on sample track 1 to step 9 of sample track 2. Now, use the NEI trig with the line over it on step 9 of sample track 2. The sample will be triggered right on the beat with no offset of course, one or the other based on the triggering of the sample on track 1. You could do it opposite of course, and slave the retrigger to the straight trig.
OR, you could use the FILL true and false conditional trigs, FILL false on the sample on track 1 and FILL true on the locked sample on track 2! Activate fill and you’ll get what you want.
OR, you can do it within the same track as well if you’re willing to accept a very small amount of offset on the trigger using the PRE conditions. Just duplicate the step you like, place it on the very next step, slam the microtiming all the way left, set your PRE false condition on that step, and you got it.
Clearly described, I got it now, thanks!
Excellent use of the nei condition.
Man this is great: I got here cause today I discovered on my Rytm that I can make the 4:4th trig NOT trig by instead creating a trigless trig set to 4:4 and then setting the trig I DON"T want to NotPRE.
The tip above is all that and even better, and it works on all Elektron stuff so far as I can tell.