Simple ish question before buying

Bobbyquine · 2015-02-18T16:22:45.000Z

Hi, I’m new here, I had a question before I buy an Octa….

I read on the Merlin guide (last page) that

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[li]Place a full trigger on step 1. By doing so, the recorder keeps on record- ing, boldly overwriting the last recording every time the pattern reloops. Although the recorder does it’ s job, I cannot hear the live input.
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[li]Removing the recorder trigger breaks the read/write situation. Result: the flexplayer simply plays the contents of the track recorder. Live input has gone [/li]
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This is great news for me, if only I can mute or delete the recorder trigger via an external midi message from a foot controller. I’ve read the midi spec in the manual but couldn’t understand whether that is possible. Can anyone tell me if that is possible please? many thanks

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avantronica · 2015-02-18T16:55:18.000Z

depending on your requirements, there is also the option to have a one-shot recording, in that case the recorder trigger will disarm itself, you’d need to re-arm to activate again (can’t recall there being a midi command for that, but it’d be documented) you can’t delete trigs remotely, but i wonder if there’s a nifty way to use parts (switchable by pattern change) that could sorta do this

you can mute a track remotely (triggers not sounds) so maybe if the track was a recording only track this might work out for you - use another track to play the record buffer from the one capturing it, again haven’t tried muting record trigs as such, i imagine it’s the same as play trigs

PeterHanes · 2015-02-18T17:04:22.000Z

""Bobbyquine"":

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This is great news for me, if only I can mute or delete the recorder trigger via an external midi message from a foot controller. I’ve read the midi spec in the manual but couldn’t understand whether that is possible. Can anyone tell me if that is possible please? many thanks[/li]
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You can arm and disarm tracks using MIDI CC message number 52, and you can arm and disarm recorders using MIDI CC message number 53.

As stated by avantronica, you can mute tracks using MIDI CCs, but you cannot mute or delete individual trigs.

avantronica · 2015-02-18T20:16:31.000Z

""PeterHanes"":

You can arm and disarm tracks using MIDI CC message number 52, and you can arm and disarm recorders using MIDI CC message number 53.

Handy for performing, must remember this !

Bobbyquine · 2015-02-19T08:59:44.000Z

Thanks for the replies chaps!
The way I’d like to use it is to keep playing my instrument until I get the loop right, and then capture that last recording. So a one shot doesn’t work i think. Peter, would disarming the track work in my case? Presumably it would disable the recorder trig and so I’d get the behaviour I wanted…

Thanks again
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lorcan · 2015-02-19T12:03:32.000Z

I’m not at my Octatrack right now, but I think you could do the following:

Track 1: Thru Machine playing from INAB
Set Bal all the way to the left and CUE this track
Track 2: Thru Machine playing from INCD
Set INCD to C
Create a Scene that sets INCD to D
Track 3: Flex Machine playing Recording buffer 3
Set Bal all the way to the right and CUE this track
Recording Track 1: Set SRC3 to record from Track 2

Using a physical cable, plug the Cue outputs into inputs C and D. This way you can select between the left and right of the Cue outputs by toggling your scene.

This way you’re continuously recording, but you can switch between the source or resampling the recording.

Unfortunately you’ll lose fidelity the longer you’re resampling as it has to pass back through the analog domain, and you’ll have to be very careful with levels, but it might be good enough depending on the application?

PeterHanes · 2015-02-19T13:45:21.000Z

""Bobbyquine"":

Thanks for the replies chaps!
The way I’d like to use it is to keep playing my instrument until I get the loop right, and then capture that last recording. So a one shot doesn’t work i think. Peter, would disarming the track work in my case? Presumably it would disable the recorder trig and so I’d get the behaviour I wanted…

Thanks again
B

Yup.

Bobbyquine · 2015-02-19T15:50:22.000Z

Great!

Thanks everyone

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