Shorting the tip and the ring

Rocketnumber10 · 2015-05-12T16:39:25.000Z

I’m trying to save mixer channels and would like to send the Kick and the Bass Tom down one channel of my mixer. They are on the same output… the signal bit is one the tip and ring respectively. I was advised that shorting these together to mix them is ‘wrong’ and that the correct way to do it is to put a 10k resistor in the way of each.

I’ve just done this and the result is really quiet. If I jack up the gain it’s pretty noisey, it seems like a pretty iffy solution.

Is it going to cause damage to the Rytm or my mixer if I just short them together? I never really grasped what was ‘wrong’ with just multing the signals.

An alternative…I don’t know if this is possible but I wonder if this could be assigned in software? If I could get the low stuff (Kick and Low Tom) down one channel, the metallic stuff (HH and Cy) down another, and the rest down the last channel that would do me until I get a bigger mixer.

At the risk of going OT here, I really wish the input to the Rytm could be routed to the fx. I much prefer running fx off auxes on a desk.

AdamJay · 2015-05-12T16:48:08.000Z

I would send them both to a small active utility sub-mixer, then output that to your single main mixer channel. It has to be active though, otherwise you’ll just be skinning the same cat a different way, with resistance issues.
Nady makes one for $25.

Art, Rolls, Samson also have some in the $50 range.
Mackie Mix-5 does the job too, though not nearly as compact as the others.

mook · 2015-05-13T19:05:51.000Z

You cld do this with y cables pretty easy too

Ess · 2015-05-13T19:36:59.000Z

I made a couple of summing cables for my Rytm a while back.
It’s important to make them correctly, I followed this guide:
http://www.rane.com/note109.html

Rocketnumber10 · 2015-05-14T00:38:51.000Z

Aha, I think that’s the issue. I had the 10k resistors where the 470 ohm ones should have been and didn’t do the t/r thing to make it balance ambidextrous.

I’ll definitely have a go at making this cable, thanks for the link!

Or… does anyone know of a stockist for this sort of cable/box. I know it’s not a common cable to request but it seems like it’s not the first time anyone has wanted one.