Share Your Kicks

Martinukai · 2016-01-04T23:45:33.000Z

Yeah onoffon, I would love to hear some examples… if it’s no trouble of course?

thx1183 · 2016-01-05T00:06:52.000Z

great tips and use of the possibilities of the ar. nice!

geoffmar · 2016-01-05T00:14:08.000Z

pumped!!

Taura · 2016-01-05T02:10:27.000Z

Hey Snitch,
your track is supercool! But I can understand what you mean.
It works very nice at home, but the kick is not ‘kicking’. I would say, it does not necesserily need to, there is this very nice basswobblecarpet instead and to me this sounds like a fresh alternative attempt in the moment. But in the club this will for sure and unfortunately turn into something supermuddy humming in the low end, unless they have 1A speakers and roomacoustics, but how often does this happen…

stutech · 2016-01-05T11:24:39.000Z

great tune snitch - you could easily tighten the lowend in the mix if you wanted to, but for my tastes it’s gr8 as it is! rsp

I’m not exactly a kick connosseur on the AR, but have managed to get a few usable kicks. I love the FM kick machine, it’s crazy!

Personally I always keep overdrive disengaged until I have reached the farthest point I can reach without using it. The overdrive sounds rather good on more lofi playback systems, but can sound totally OTT in a treated room with nearfileds or at the club, so I tend to be careful with it nowadays (LOL @ my first gig with the AR, I had drowned all my sounds with overdrive - mudville)

I just thought of an experiment - indiout all sounds, route your kick (plus whatever else you want to smash) to the master as well as indiouts, and then use master distortion to smash the sounds. Blend the driven masterbus to indisounds to taste with a mixer. This way the transients would still be intact, but you could mix in “saturated body” to the sounds…

ON-OFF-ON · 2016-01-05T21:41:46.000Z

Hi Geoffmar and Martinukai,

I just uploaded some sysex to the files section.

I included two system for sounds FMbop and FMstnks and also a sysex for a project called SHOWKICKS.syx it contains a couple patterns I made for other projects that have what I feel is a nice BDFM kick.

http://www.elektronauts.com/files/download/196

If I can finish rendering the video before my macbook runs out of juice I’ll upload a little video I made last night of a song I’m working on that has lots of FM in it heh.

Martinukai · 2016-01-06T02:11:12.000Z

""onoffon"":

Hi Geoffmar and Martinukai,

I just uploaded some sysex to the files section.

I included two system for sounds FMbop and FMstnks and also a sysex for a project called SHOWKICKS.syx it contains a couple patterns I made for other projects that have what I feel is a nice BDFM kick.

http://www.elektronauts.com/files/download/196

If I can finish rendering the video before my macbook runs out of juice I’ll upload a little video I made last night of a song I’m working on that has lots of FM in it heh.

Thanks so much onoffon!,
I just transferred all sysex files and the only thing I can get to work is the FM stnks kick. I do a search for the other kick and there’s no sign.

Also the AR received the many songs and patterns you sent in that other file but it appears that they are blank.

I can see for sure that they transferred ok on both machine and c6, but when I search for them (I loaded an empty project especially) there is nothing there.

ON-OFF-ON · 2016-01-06T18:05:59.000Z

Sorry Martinukai - I can do a double check on my rytm later to make sure they can be loaded correctly. I do admit I haven’t exported many sysex files from rytm, but I followed the process that I know works well on my monomachine. When I get home later I’ll do some testing to make sure my sysex files did in fact export correctly. I know for the indiv sounds I went through the sound manager menu and sent sysex to C6 (in receive mode) and it imported it and then I hit save. For the project it seemed a little more involved and it was like a big 1.5meg file even though I exported an empty project with only 2 patterns and 2 kits.

I’ll try again for ya later today !

pats · 2016-01-06T19:25:43.000Z

Where are the patterns/sounds and kits located after using the sysex receive function through C6 ?

i downloaded the kick file from the “files section” but i can’t locate it in the rytm.

thanks!

pats · 2016-01-06T19:29:28.000Z

just read the replies above (i had my replied on hold for a while)

Martinukai · 2016-01-07T01:12:58.000Z

""onoffon"":

Sorry Martinukai - I can do a double check on my rytm later to make sure they can be loaded correctly. I do admit I haven’t exported many sysex files from rytm, but I followed the process that I know works well on my monomachine. When I get home later I’ll do some testing to make sure my sysex files did in fact export correctly. I know for the indiv sounds I went through the sound manager menu and sent sysex to C6 (in receive mode) and it imported it and then I hit save. For the project it seemed a little more involved and it was like a big 1.5meg file even though I exported an empty project with only 2 patterns and 2 kits.

I’ll try again for ya later today !

Don’t worry about it. No rush man, thanks for making the effort:) Really generous of you sharing your sounds and techniques!

matheusleston · 2016-01-07T02:09:17.000Z

""onoffon"":

Anyways … this may have been totally out of place … I’m honestly really shy about this stuff, but I wanted to add my 2c cause I’ve been seriously having too much fun with kicks lately.

I just said in another topic that I can’t get good kick sounds using only the BD’s channel synthesis. But your post gave me hope once again! Thanks for all the tips, I will explore all those things.

takadoum · 2016-01-08T13:03:17.000Z

Very good tips, Onoffon

I also always use filter to sculpt the click. This way you can sweep from a really pure kick (no click) to the most clicky psytrance kick ever

And point 5) is crucial ! The most important IMHO. Most of the time, a bad filtered sound on other track will eat your kick body.

As for the LFO, I hardly never use it for the ooomph, but rather for sculpting the tail, to add rebounce or tie to the bass (BT) on following step if it’s too different from the kick note.
And this really helps because everything is related to the other tracks. A weak but well blended kick will work better than a huge but incoherent one.

Another tip to add punchyness : work your levels (synth and amp page). In the beginning I always put synth level at maximum, and play with amp. WRONG !!!
Sometimes you have to put synth level very very low so that you can set a huge distorsion with dist and amp level, which will bring punch but not saturation.
Then you can choose between a huge but clean kick (low synth level) and a dirty one (high synth level).
Of course also play with wave type, and filter, for high pass is better to bring harmonics and very dirty texture.

My 2c too, good day all and happy new AR stuff !

ON-OFF-ON · 2016-01-08T18:59:45.000Z

Hi again everybody sorry I haven’t had a chance to test the sysex files I posted here, but I promise I’ll get around tonight.

I only had a really short amount of time last night for my music machines to I spent it making this recording.

It uses the FM kick with techniques I was describing in my earlier post.

http://www.elektronauts.com/t/i-rem-fire-video/16715

NICK_GOOD · 2016-01-09T17:05:43.000Z

GREAT THREAD PEEPS SO MUCH INFO!!!

analogresearchlaboratory · 2017-08-23T14:32:57.936Z

I relaunched the thread because I found it interesting.

Very low rumble kick.

Synth : BD Silk
TUN:-12 SWT:66 SWD:24 DEC:64
HLD:34 DUS:16 CLK:16 LVL : 100

Filter
FRQ:19 RES:66
TYP:Peak ENV:0

Amp
ATK:0 HLD:32 DEC:54 OVR:7
DEL:0 REV:0 PAN:0

LFO
SPD:24 MUL:32 FAD:0 DST:REV
WAV:EXP SPH:0 MOD:ONE DEP:90

TrabanT · 2017-08-24T13:03:15.379Z

comp
thr 104 atk 0,3 rel 0,2 mup 60
rat 1:2 seq off mix 47 vol 95

filt amt 21 sym 0 dov 71

bd silky
tun -12 swt 64 swd 88 dec 112
hld 24 dus 72 clk 16 lev 100

hold 95 dec 82

lfo spd +48 *16 -1 36
exp 0 trg dep +127

for slow beats and off beat house goodness… smart sounding kick : p

analogresearchlaboratory · 2017-08-27T10:39:09.750Z

I find it interesting to see the different volume of reference on the kick. Have a specific DB-VU number for creating these?

jaschar · 2017-08-27T17:27:31.865Z

I’m madly in love with this powerful kick!
https://drossel.bandcamp.com/track/ordinary
…skip to 1:00 min.

Is there any way we can create this via the AR synthesis?

Cheers!

gandlar13 · 2017-09-10T21:42:44.588Z

TrabanT:

lfo spd +48 *16 -1 36

hi, what is your LFO destination here? ‘36’ is a mistake here i think