Sequencers : Please add steps per pages!

100% this. Well said.

Essentially, there are infinite metrical possibilities. They certainly aren’t all as formulaic as a 7/4 that’s “a beat shorter” or a 5/4 that’s “a beat longer”.

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Steps per page would make working in other time signatures so much easier. I was working in 3/4 across 48 steps recently and it was unnecessarily burdensome to keep tracking back and forth to find the downbeat while sequencing 8 midi tracks and 8 sample tracks.

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Just as an FYI, while we wait for Elektron to possibly introduce this feature, I’ve made some free cheat sheets that can ease the pain a little bit.

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Just here to add my :crossed_fingers: for this feature

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Of course if this happens, people will just want multipliers and tempo per page… :crazy_face:

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Another thumbs up.

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Skip trigs plz! It would allow this plus lots of other fun stuff. Hold down a trig and press NO to toggle that step on and off, “skip trigs” would appear a different color, maybe a dim purple or blue? and be entirely skipped by the sequencer. For 3/4 can hold down 13,14,15,16 and press no to mark those as skip trigs, it would now only be 12/16 steps long, can extend to next page which would also be 12/16 steps.

X--- X--- X--- SSSS
X--- X--- X--- SSSS

Can also allow stuff like different number of steps per page.

X--- X--- X--- SSSS
X--- X--- SSSS SSSS

or

X--S X--S X--S X--S if you want 3 steps per beat instead of 4

This could be added I think with very little change to the UI and other systems, just need to ensure there is always at least one non-skipped trig, but that’s pretty easy to enforce.

This is pretty much the same/or inverse I guess of “Active Step” on Korg sequencers and probably exists on plenty of other sequencers out there by other names.

It would allow fun performance stuff, especially if skipped trigs kept all their note and lock info, so if you disable the skip it will come back just as it was.

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I could live with it. Although it would be not as fast as proper step per page setting.

I like this idea! Very visual as well so you can place the skips however you wish for your own workflow/mindset.

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Skip trigs. Great idea!
And even better combined with Trig conditions.

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This is how Engine implements it, you can just disable a step and it is skipped. Much more flexible, you can set different number of active steps per page. It’s a flexible but also simple implementation. Ideal way to work with weird time signatures imo.

I’m personally ok with it although a “proper” length per page would be faster, more efficient, when working with a defined time signature.
Both options would be tremendously helpful.

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After 2 years of using DT and ST, this is my first post on Elektron forum !
I’m not a serial poster but that the most musical request for every elektron sequencer !
I don’t care if a skip trig is better than a page length but it is really hard to make odd signature (even 3 times).
Please inplement it !

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It is so, so sad that this thread is 8 years old now, and the feature request mentioned up top celebrates its 15th birthday now :tada:. I just can’t imagine that there is some technical reason why this is impossible to implement, so it seems to be a deliberate choice to not allow to set the page length. But there have been several updates that have made the issue even more glaring. The modern devices have at least 8 pages, and the Tonverk even more. So there is no harm in disabling a few steps per page. The page loop function also is basically unusable outside of 4/4. I feel it’s so infuriating that the feature could very well come in a few months, but equally well not come in the next 20 years. I’ve come to use the situation as a way to fight GAS, and put up the rule that I won’t by another Electron product before this option is implemented. So see you in two years for the thread’s 10th anniversary!

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I made a video request for this years ago:

Absolutely this! I’ve been wanting steps per page or skip trigs to make odd time signatures easier on Elektron boxes!

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I’d welcome any change that made this workable, either skip trigs or page length (and its variations). While I don’t need it right now, 5/4 can be very groovy, not distantly related to the Bo Diddley beat (that blues guys call a rumba).

Has to be said though, while elektron have a long standing bug regarding communicating end of pattern over midi, I can’t help feeling this might be a more difficult area to change than some here are considering.

‘My feeling’ remember… I am nowhere near saying ‘it won’t happen’ … but I am saying that since it’s 15 years since 1st request… that there may be reasons it’s been slow to arrive.

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It should be simple to code.

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You stirrer, you.

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These jokes aren’t going to crack themselves.