Scale setup focus on 1 bar of a 2 or 4 bar pattern

Cobramatic · 2014-08-24T02:00:53.000Z

First post here - hoping you can all help with something that should be simple but I can’t seem to find it!
Ok, so I make a 16/16 pattern then want to expand it to say 32 or 64 -no problem with that.
The issue then is - I want to edit the 2nd bar only - can I do a focus on that 2nd bar so it just repeats while I edit it??
At the moment I have to cycle through all 4 bars of my 64/64 pattern just to hear my edit in the 2nd bar - it’s very frustrating!
Obviously I’m missing something - surely this is possible right?
My Tempest dos this easily in grid mode - I just turn on looping for the current bar - easy.
Cheers!

zfigz · 2014-08-24T02:30:53.000Z

Nope, not possible.

You’d have to use another sequencer that could do that and record it to the mnm.

Accent · 2014-08-24T02:54:58.000Z

Easiest way for me is to use song mode and set it to play the range that you want to edit. Steps 17-32, 33-48 etc.

Cobramatic · 2014-08-24T03:44:38.000Z

Ahh, thanks. The song mode workaround is a great suggestion!

I suppose this is the same issue on the MD and OT??

Seems like such an obvious option to want/ have - guess ill head over to the user requests thread then…

poonti · 2014-08-24T03:47:25.000Z

They’re all like this…it would be such an improvement to loop a chosen bar/page, but at least song mode is a workaround, even if a bit awkward.

Cobramatic · 2014-08-24T06:57:42.000Z

Ok, the song mode workaround works but it is definitely a pain to have to do it that way.
I can’t believe that there is not a simple [Shift Scale] command to implement in pattern mode or something.
Surely this must have come up a million times before??

Totally love the machine but that one thing would make such a difference to the work flow.
Thanks for the help though guys.

zfigz · 2014-08-24T12:37:17.000Z

""Accent"":

Easiest way for me is to use song mode and set it to play the range that you want to edit. Steps 17-32, 33-48 etc.

That’s a great suggestion. I use song mode a lot to finish arrange my tracks, but never thought to use it in the composition phase.

Allerian · 2014-08-24T12:40:37.000Z

Another old-school workaround is to shift your pattern with Func+<>.

elenacortes · 2014-08-24T18:53:50.000Z

You can also use copy page and paste it on an other pattern, work it and then copy back in place.

Allerian · 2014-08-24T19:42:05.000Z

[quote=“” elenacortes""]
You can also use copy page and paste it on an other pattern, work it and then copy back in place.
[/quote]

Brilliant. Why have I never thought of this?

poonti · 2014-08-25T02:25:07.000Z

""Allerian"":

Another old-school workaround is to shift your pattern with Func+<>.

Can you shift, then limit to 1 bar, and then go back to x bars, and shift back without losing anything? Seems like another good way (but still a PITA).

Allerian · 2014-08-25T13:25:58.000Z

[quote=“” poonti""]

[quote=“Allerian”]Another old-school workaround is to shift your pattern with Func+<>.
[/quote]

Can you shift, then limit to 1 bar, and then go back to x bars, and shift back without losing anything? Seems like another good way (but still a PITA).[/quote]
Yup. But I am beginning to prefer Elena’s approach.

poonti · 2014-08-25T13:39:18.000Z

""Allerian"":

[quote=" poonti"][quote=“Allerian”]Another old-school workaround is to shift your pattern with Func+<>.

Can you shift, then limit to 1 bar, and then go back to x bars, and shift back without losing anything? Seems like another good way (but still a PITA).[/quote]
Yup. But I am beginning to prefer Elena’s approach.[/quote]
Yes, I just saw that one: seems the simplest! Ladies & gents, we have a winner!

zfigz · 2014-08-25T23:21:57.000Z

""elenacortes"":

You can also use copy page and paste it on an other pattern, work it and then copy back in place.

That’s how I work. Least amount of steps to.

Cobramatic · 2014-08-26T11:00:39.000Z

I missed that Copy Page option.
Need to read the manual more closely I guess.
It’s a good option too.
Cheers!

Cobramatic · 2014-08-26T12:33:11.000Z

But hang on … Doesn’t copy page only copy the selected track ?
Really I want all 6 tracks of that page copied to a new pattern for editing in detail.
Also my undo page doesn’t work for that mode (but does for others)- I’m on os 1.21 , is it time to upgrade?

josker · 2014-08-26T12:50:02.000Z

""Cobramatic"":

But hang on … Doesn’t copy page only copy the selected track ?
Really I want all 6 tracks of that page copied to a new pattern for editing in detail.
Also my undo page doesn’t work for that mode (but does for others)- I’m on os 1.21 , is it time to upgrade?

Nope…
options are:
Scale setup + Copy: Copy current page trigs on current track, nothing more
Rec lit: Func + Copy: Copy current track and all its trigs
Rec unlit: Func + Copy: Copy current pattern and all that comes with it.

Edit: Oops, I just noticed this is a Monomachine thread, not an Octatrack one. So there might be more possibilities I’m not aware of, but these, at least?

zfigz · 2014-08-26T13:19:33.000Z

[quote=“” josker""]

Edit: Oops, I just noticed this is a Monomachine thread, not an Octatrack one. So there might be more possibilities I’m not aware of, but these, at least?
[/quote]

Yup, that’s all there is.

Rady_Valkov · 2014-08-27T10:37:55.000Z

Here comes the question: Is the FUNC+<> trick MIDI assignable (i.e. externally controlled by a controller)? It is a great trick for live performances.

zfigz · 2014-08-27T21:42:35.000Z

[quote=““Rady Valkov””]
Here comes the question: Is the FUNC+<> trick MIDI assignable (i.e. externally controlled by a controller)? It is a great trick for live performances.
[/quote]

Good question. A quick flip to the back of the manual should tell ya.