Hi - When I’m sampling a beat from my analog rytm into my Octatrack I use the default settings (except maybe the slight fade in and out on the sample) and the Octatrack doesn’t start the playback of the loop straight away and at the start of loop so yes its ‘in time’ BPM wise but its out of phase or out of sync with the loop playing on the AR.
Now I normally wouldn’t want to sample the same loop on top of the same beat loop but its just to get a handle on how the machine works - then I’ll use it to do another loop with differing sounds.
Is there a way to sample a loop and have it start straight away (when I watch octatrack vids they seem to play live no problems!) and exactly in time and in sync so that the octatrack instantly recognises the start of a loop or is that a way to do it with record trigs - can you help me?
i think the default is for the play trig to get time priority over the record trig when they land on the same trig, so when you sample, you’re sampling in the background and hearing the last buffer (not the one you’ve just set off)
a quick #OTtip fudge, there may be better, hopefully, is to microtome nudge the record buffer ‘early’ (or play buffer ‘late’), just one nudge (1/384th i think) and then you’ll hear the currently sampling buffer, i.e. what you’re listening too, obviously there are subtle timing issues here which may not work well for some material
a request to Elektron may be to allow the record buffer to engage first, in priority to the play trig, i also haven’t experimented with how this might work out if you are sampling different tracks, maybe the timing order works better for this application
Nah you’re not quite understanding me. I don’t mean slightly out of sync I mean like if I sample from a beat that’s playing how can I sample so that it then plays back the loop onto my octatrack straight away and in time from the start of the loop. I’m thinking in a live environment where someone is playing out how do they sample something playing on a keyboard for instance then have it quickly repeat and in time cutting out any silence that’s at the beginning or exactly as played. I can’t imagine someone would sample something on the fly and then have to go into the edit menu setting up loop points etc? If I just sample a beat myself I’m always going to miss the timing.
I’m having a bit of a hard time getting the octatrack to start playing when I press play on the AR. Do the machines need to be directly linked via midi or can it all be done via USB?
I connect my OT to my other electrons via MIDI, with the OT as the master clock, sending clock and transport. I bring the other boxes in via the OT inputs. Set up a few tracks as flex machines, playing from the record buffer, one shot record trigs. Playback trigs based on the record buffer size. Make one scene to play the machines back directly from the inputs (mixer) and mute the flex tracks, another to mute the inputs and play the flex tracks. All of that gets saved in the part / pattern.
Once it’s all set up, I press play on the OT and the other machine goes. Press yes when there’s something I want to sample. This enables the one-shot record trig. Then I can use the crossfader and/or scene buttons to fade over to the flex machine, and start tweaking it. I can switch the other machine to play a different pattern, then transition over to it.
Look up ‘the transition trick’.
You can also do flex machines with pre-defined slice points, put in all trigs, maybe randomize or even link the LFO to ‘slice’ chopping the s**t out of it.
…the only real instant sample and play the ot offers would be the pick up machines…
since these are more a toy than a serious function in the actual os, you need to use a flex machine…
and if you make sure the record buffer you’re using is already assigned to that flex machine, it only needs one trig to be placed after sampling and the sample is playing…
which is, more or less, once you can deal with it, instant looping…pretty much…
and sure you got to connect your machines via midi…the usb conecction is more suitable for lining up with computers…
for simple sync questions, real midi is the best solution…