Sample from recorder

apcnt · 2014-07-25T18:49:57.000Z

Hello,

does any of the AR owners here know if it’s possible to plug in a sd or hard disk recorder into the AR and import samples directly?

Would be handy not to turn on a computer when you’re creating sounds and sample them on a zoom or something…

the_dreammer · 2014-07-25T19:00:58.000Z

As far as i know… any machine that does Midi-sample-dump … should be able to send samples to the ar…

for example: if you have a machinedrum, you can sample with that one… and then send the sample to your ar… Some old-skool samplers do sample-midi-dump…
(i got a 20 year old keyboard that can do it) …

but to be honest, i never heard of a field-recorder that does midi-sample-dump…

apcnt · 2014-07-26T14:37:08.000Z

Don’t even know what midi sample dump is but I do have an ensoniq eps 16…
Ok i thought samples had to be load in via USB so that’s why was thinking that a small sd recorder would be nice

mokomo · 2014-07-26T14:57:46.000Z

a raspberry pi with wolfram audio card, a microphone or audio in jack socket and a midi out should do the trick. put a small lcd on it and it’ll be about the size of two cigarette boxes. you could send to the AR via usb also.

the_dreammer · 2014-07-26T15:06:47.000Z

""apcnt"":

Don’t even know what midi sample dump is but I do have an ensoniq eps 16…
Ok i thought samples had to be load in via USB so that’s why was thinking that a small sd recorder would be nice

Ah like that… so you need to upgrade your knowledge… let me help a bit:
in the dark-ages of midi… some genius decided, that they needed a format to send samples via midi to a machine…
they called this “midi-sample-dump” u might be able to find people who call it “midi-sample-data” …
they did not have things like USB at the time (20+ years ago) … Some samplers at the time did SCSI (this is simular to IDE/SATA … its a way to connect peripherals together… like harddisks/tapestreamers/zipdisks/samplers … and to my knowledge, allot of people liked SCSI over MDS, because it was allot faster / easier to manage…
A machinedrum… knows how to deal with mds … and so does AR … so you should be able to send sample-data from machinedrum to AR.
because it knows how to send it… (the correct format)
Your field-recorder… just does not know how to do this…
When you connect your field-recorder to the AR via usb… nothing will happen… because the AR will have no clue what to do with that field-recorder… big chance is: they both slave-units… (say what!!!) Acording to usb-specifications… 1 device is the host… and the others slave to it…
when you connect a slave to another slave… it will just not work… (thats why you cant stick a usb-controller into your octatrack… same idea… they just dont talk together)
the AR, is a sample player… not a sample-recorder… so you cannot connect your recorder via audio-connection… and record it into your AR…
so: If you want to fill your AR with a recorder, without the use of a computer (which will do most/all of the conversion for ya) … you need a sampler that knows how to do MDS … (which leaves you with a few old samplers to choose from)
If I was in your shoes… I would record whatever i want in my field-recorder… Chop it into usuable samples on my computer. and then
use C6 to dump the samples in my AR… and have fun with it…
lets say: for argument sake: you got the worlds most insanely recorder that actually does mds… you still need to chop your samples.
as the ar itself does not have sample-chopping utilities… at best… you can play with sample-start/end parameters… not fun if you have a 10minute recording of something…
anyways… here ya have it… all reasons why i logically think, what you want… doesn work…

the_dreammer · 2014-07-26T15:11:18.000Z

""mokomo"":

a raspberry pi with wolfram audio card, a microphone or audio in jack socket and a midi out should do the trick. put a small lcd on it and it’ll be about the size of two cigarette boxes. you could send to the AR via usb also.

Yes, this would work… but i still think you gotta do a lot of programming to get there… not everybody could do that easy…

apcnt · 2014-07-26T18:38:12.000Z

@ The Dreammer: Thanks for sharing your knowledge, makes sense that 2 slave devices wouldn’t communicate with each other.

Would be handy tough

First thing i’ll do is check if my Ensoniq sends out the Midi Sample Data.
Suppose it does as it was an advanced sampler in it’s days…

Thanks

the_dreammer · 2014-07-26T18:51:06.000Z

I dont know which ensoniq sampler you have… but a quick google said
that atleast some of them can do it… So I have good hopes for ya buddy…

enjoy