Sample Based instrument with kits and lot of memory and FXs?

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I’m wondering if there is any sampler that would replace Ableton Drum Racks.
This is probably silly, and I should probably keep Ableton Drum Racks as my primary drum source, with a dedicated Midi controller, which is a solution I’m quite happy with.
But who knows, maybe there’s a piece of hardware that would work for me ? I’m simply considering to have a dedicated piece of hardware for a dedicated duty.
I would produce in Ableton, then resample drum slots, make a kit out of them, and load kits in the hypothetical machin.

it would :

  • be sequenced externally
  • have a great MIDI implementation
  • have “unlimited” number of kits of “unlimited” sounds
  • kits should be loadable very quickly (3 seconds max)
  • play engine should have ADSR (not AR envelope)
  • have nice FX that are enjoyable to play live

Analog Rytm, that I own and love very much, is ALMOST perfect. I love the form factor of mk1, it sounds great, FXs are ok, and Scenes+Perf make it fun to use live. Also, it has kits that are “instantly” recallable via the use of empty patterns.
BUT : The main limitation is the 128 sample limit. Also the 12 shared voices + “only” 128 kits available.
So in the end it’s a no-go for me.

Any ideas ?

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Maschine + as a drum machine is amazing and does everything you are asking. Also has scenes and very good sounding effects. The 8 knobs can also be set as macros.

Some people will say a mpc and it’s a nice device but the maschine is 10 times more playable.

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Thanks ! I never looked at it.

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Sounds like an Akai MPC…

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Synthstrom Audio Deluge with community firmware (for better FX, Ableton-like clip launching and much more). Checks all the points IMHO.

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Thanks, not at all interested in using a sequencer, but I’ll check !

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Which model ? I’m not sure how the “kit structure” works on MPCs.
Also, they don’t seem “hands on” for FXs.

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How about a Push 2 or 3?

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Modern MPC is, at it’s core, a choice of form factors. The MPC family is a lot like pizza: whether it’s cut into triangles or squares it all pretty much tastes the same.

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Nobody talks about it anymore, but mpc has a koass pad built in you can use… but assign effects and twiddle knobs like anything else…

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Any modern MPC, my choice is Live 2.
For effects you can use the yx pad. Or you can assign any of the 4 sets of 4 knobs to any value. On the Force you have macros so one knob can control multiple parameters

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How’s the data structure ?
Do it have kits, and can you quickly switch between a big (>100) amount of kits ?

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MPC range, not force, has a lot workflow.
So you could have a project with a drum program and a few synths or sampler programs.
On the drum program you can just load a new kit or switch to one already in memory