Rytm-Recording quality issue

Barresic · 2015-01-24T15:01:07.000Z

Hi everybody,

i recently acquired an analog rytm, which is my 1st elektron box but also my 1st analog drum machine.
After making some beats that i like i wanted to integrate it into my DAW in order to start composing some stuff with other instruments.

I then started recording on ableton a drum loop from the rytm and i’m experiencing some annoying hiss after recording. I tried playing with the volume of the rytm to see if the problem came from it being too high or too low but the problem stayed the same.

So what do i need to minimize or delete this background noise from my recordings?

I apologize if this sounds very amateur but i couldn’t figure it out by searching on google.

My external audio interface is the Presonus Audiobox USB (if usefull).

Thanks !

xidnpnlss · 2015-01-24T15:10:28.000Z

All the analog circuitry will be noisy (compared to digital, at least). That’s the nature of analog. If you must have it gone, check among others the distortion, overdrive and compression settings.

If that’s not the issue, then i don’t know. Try checking the gain on your interface?

Barresic · 2015-01-24T15:18:24.000Z

Yep maybe i will try this again.
I knew i would have noise when i bought the Rytm and i didn’t mind it, it’s just that its volume is very high after i recorded something from it.

KOTARE · 2015-01-24T15:53:47.000Z

I’d check your cables and your compressor/limiter settings in your DAW.

Your soundcard is the other factor that leaps out. If you can’t hear this heightened noise when monitoring straight from the outputs then it must be something in the path to your computer or in your DAW settings itself.

Barresic · 2015-01-24T17:01:02.000Z

Thanks a lot !

stutech · 2015-01-24T17:20:33.000Z

Abusing the onboard compressor will get you to noiseville very quickly… Perhaps try disabling it first? (set compressor mix to 100% dry)

Least_Useless · 2015-01-24T17:49:18.000Z

One way of isolating the source of the problem is to plug the speaker cables straight into the main outs.

clunky · 2015-01-24T18:42:01.000Z

[quote=““Least Useless””]
One way of isolating the source of the problem is to plug the speaker cables straight into the main outs.
[/quote]

what?

the output of the ar wont drive unpowered speakers:zonked:

and there are much better ways to sort that issue out:wink:

if the ar is making to much noise then headphones would show that
then follow the chain
this all assuming you have the gain correct at every point

if your not experienced maybe some reading might be in order.

Clic · 2015-01-24T21:00:03.000Z

According to one of cuckoo’s videos it is a good idea to check (on all tracks) amp decay settings, meaning turning them from 127 down a little. That helped me reducing noise significantly.

Barresic · 2015-01-24T22:01:02.000Z

Thanks guys, i managed to get a descent sound quality when recording by checking the compression. But i will also look into your other advices.

biologik · 2015-01-24T23:59:03.000Z

""Barresic"":

Thanks guys, i managed to get a descent sound quality when recording by checking the compression. But i will also look into your other advices.

I abuse the compressor, but it will hiss if there’s no sound going through it and you’re pushing it hard. Not a big issue for me when playing live, but in a studio environment I turn off the compressor.

Barresic · 2015-01-25T01:39:44.000Z

Hey yep sorry i ment turning it down.

motonaut · 2015-01-25T09:34:31.000Z

Hi Barresic,
Well, there are two other topics which seems to match your problem.
These are:

BUG (1.01): Bass Tom infinite delay Analog Rytm

Looks like there’s a new bug in 1.01 where the Bass Tom sometimes gets an infinite delay. This often happens immediately after turning the machine on, when unmuting the BT track, or when you adjust the delay time. Please note that it might take a few tries to trigger this issue, and that tweaking the settings or unmuting/muting might also resolve it temporarily; I haven’t yet found a repeatable way to trigger it every time, or to make the issue go away. Anyone else who can confirm this?

BT5 infinite tom issue Analog Rytm

Hi there, First of all Happy New Year, best wishes for y´all. I am having this infinite tom issue on BT5 when I start the machine, I change pattern and the problem seem to disappear depending on which pattern I change. Is this already fixed? Am I the only one having this issue? I have the latest firmware (1.02D) Greetings!

Please read them and check if it is what you mean. Some of the users here in your
topic are involved in both above topics, me too. I can confirm what members have
said to you here as far I tried it too. As far the noise peak is not a steady problem in
every project it must be a matter of adjusting the named parameters.
Keep an eye on it and be so nice to write your results into the first above mentioned
topic for us to know if it is a bug. Meanwhile I personally don`t thinks so but the more
people handle it, the more other members will be prepared for it. Thank you.

Digi001 · 2015-01-26T16:12:17.000Z

""clunky"":

[quote=“Least Useless”]One way of isolating the source of the problem is to plug the speaker cables straight into the main outs.

what?

the output of the ar wont drive unpowered speakers:zonked:

and there are much better ways to sort that issue out:wink:

if the ar is making to much noise then headphones would show that
then follow the chain
this all assuming you have the gain correct at every point

if your not experienced maybe some reading might be in order.

[/quote]
I assume he means Powered Speakers. And there is actually some validity here. The Elektron is essentially a floating device since it has no ground connection. Hooking up the device directly to powered speakers (rather than going through a rack of gear with preamps/fx/etc) may reduce some ground loop noise.

clunky · 2015-01-26T16:37:03.000Z

""Digi001"":

[quote=“clunky”][quote=“Least Useless”]One way of isolating the source of the problem is to plug the speaker cables straight into the main outs.

what?

the output of the ar wont drive unpowered speakers:zonked:

and there are much better ways to sort that issue out:wink:

if the ar is making to much noise then headphones would show that
then follow the chain
this all assuming you have the gain correct at every point

if your not experienced maybe some reading might be in order.

[/quote]
I assume he means Powered Speakers. And there is actually some validity here. The Elektron is essentially a floating device since it has no ground connection. Hooking up the device directly to powered speakers (rather than going through a rack of gear with preamps/fx/etc may reduce some ground loop noise.
[/quote]
yes well, thats why i suggested headphones.

btw ground loop problems usually cause a hum or a buzz rather than noise, quite different to my ears

but what ever floats your boat.

Digi001 · 2015-01-26T19:43:29.000Z

""clunky"":

[quote=“Digi001”][quote=“clunky”][quote=“Least Useless”]One way of isolating the source of the problem is to plug the speaker cables straight into the main outs.

what?

the output of the ar wont drive unpowered speakers:zonked:

and there are much better ways to sort that issue out:wink:

if the ar is making to much noise then headphones would show that
then follow the chain
this all assuming you have the gain correct at every point

if your not experienced maybe some reading might be in order.

[/quote]
I assume he means Powered Speakers. And there is actually some validity here. The Elektron is essentially a floating device since it has no ground connection. Hooking up the device directly to powered speakers (rather than going through a rack of gear with preamps/fx/etc may reduce some ground loop noise.
[/quote]
yes well, thats why i suggested headphones.

btw ground loop problems usually cause a hum or a buzz rather than noise, quite different to my ears

but what ever floats your boat.

[/quote]
Actually Ground loop problems created by unwanted long current paths can induce voltages of any frequency. Essential your signal path is acting under the same principles as an antenna would. 60Hz just happens to be a common frequency, but this can pickup hum, buzz, fuzz, or any noise really.