RYTM MK2 and Roland TR1000

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone owns both of these units and has had a chance to compare them. I’m not looking to see if one is better than the other. I know they’re both very capable high-end drum machines. I have the RYTM MK2 and think it’s terrific. What I’m wondering is if the TR1000 has any distinct advantages over the RYTM MK2, particularly in terms of workflow.

In terms of my use case, I’m not dawless. I do most of my work in a daw, but I just like programming drum machines and using them within my daw.

Thanks.

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This is very subjective. What are you dissatisfied with in the Rytm, and what are you hoping the TR-1000 might remedy?

The only issue I have with the RYTM, and it’s a minor one, is the limited sample memory. I’m not thinking the TR needs to remedy anything. I’m just wondering if it has any features, besides the crossfader, that stand out compared to the RYTM.

The biggest advantage I noticed is having faders for each drum track on the TR-1000. When you’re transitioning patterns getting ready to change the song idea it help. You could probably use the outputs of the RYTM into an analog mixer and get a similar result.

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Yes, that stands out. The RYTM mixer is easily accessible, but you can’t really beat physical faders.

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Yes, more knobs and faders on the tr1k which makes it more “playable” (feels like a drum machine and mixer merged as one). But I am finding the Rytm better at sound shaping (to me it is more of a drum synth than a drum machine). The Rytm has direct jump for the sequencer which I rely heavily on for playing live, and the tr1k is more rigid in how patterns and variations and fills are accessed. Kit and pattern management feels much better on the tr1k than on the Rytm.

Neither is “better”, it really depends on what you’re looking for.

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a pretty important distinction is that the Rytm was actually designed in a way that lets you sequence and play its synth engines chromatically. The TR1000 doesn’t do that except through hacks with coarse tune CC.

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Thanks. That’s helpful.

The Rytm mixer is easily accessible I have it all assigned to Layer B on the Drop

The Drop has 8 functions per knob, button and slider and is the perfect mixer/controller for Rytm IMO :ok_hand:

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I love both, the TR1000 works best given the range of sweet spots and the vast styles of tunes I can make with it. At least in electronic music. It’s a future class in my opinion.

Not sure where to find it, but someone had mentioned the Rytm takes a bit more effort to reel in because of its architecture. But it’s capable of going into a bit more adventurous terrain.

I find the usability of the TR1000 much easier, and if I were someone who sampled, the time-stretching and overall features in this regard would win out.

I would also go with the TR1000 for the utility of connecting other machines. The filter and analog overdrive are tops. I don’t use a ton of effects in my music, but the morph slider, delay, and reverbs are very pleasing to the ear. There are other effects I’ve dabbled with that don’t sound like any drum machine/groove box I’ve owned, like the phaser (if my memory serves), that are also super good. You can’t lose in this department.

The Rytm wins out with chromatic mode, and it’s definitely on TR1K users’ wishlist.

Form factor is my favorite of the Elektron product offering. It’s just a beauty, and I’d say a pleasure to use. Managing samples via the menu and sample storage leave a bit to be desired.

And I figured if I missed it enough, I could likely find one around €900 used, so price-wise you’d save a lot, but you’re also getting more easy-to-use features from the TR1000 (imho).

I would side with Rytm over the Alpha Base from utility standpoint (would use Alpha Base samples with it in a heartbeat), as I particularly didn’t like the the AB’s design, and I found the usability lacking enough to discourage diving deeper (bias towards good design). But I would say the Alpha Base’s sonics are better than the Rytm’s. And depending who you ask, the AB wins out over the TR1000.

I’d even go as far to say the Digitone II wins out over the Rytm if space, budget and range of types of music you can make. And you’ll likely reap more upgrades and improvements in firmware updates.

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I filled the Rytm with Alpha Base, TR-909 samples it’s the ultimate Techno machine for me :heart_eyes:

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Can’t go wrong!

I satisfied the Alpha Base kick it with M-Base II. I only used about four of the AB’s voices. It didn’t make sense to keep it alongside the TR1K.

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IMO nothing beats the JoMox kick drum I’m thinking about getting another MBase II so as I can control all parameters via the Drop. I do have JoMox kick samples sound amazing but I might just get another MBase II had the AlphaBase MKII last Christmas it was way too buggy for me and it was expensive :flushed:

Which, the MBase or AB?

AB was so buggy. Never had a problem with the MBase 11 at all

This is such a helpful answer. Thanks a lot for all the info.

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