RYTM Compression

that’s my take, i have little expectation about what i think it ought to do, i just thoroughly enjoy what it actually does particularly in tandem with a splash of the distortion/symmetry and bringing the reverb in pre - very transforming ![/quote]
Definitely. And made all the better once you start p-locking the distortion and compressor in the FX track.

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I love the compression on the RYTM!!! I find the RYTM to be very very quiet without the compression in use. I think it is really MEANT to be used, because they build in so much headroom for the overdrive and compressor. First thing I do on a new kit is amp up the compressor setting to my taste!

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I kind of stopped using the compressor because when you mute the kick, everything gets louder. Then when you bring it back in everything sounds quiet in comparison… Any tips for getting round this?

That’s how all compressors act, it’s because bass frequencies take up more space. I don’t mind this, but the key is just to dial back your compression if you don’t like that. Of course then it won’t sound as juicy. Audio pros will automate the threshold when the bass comes out. This will be easier when over bridge comes out for Rytm

It’s totally dependent on the sounds you’re using, but I’ll usually have the parallel mix at around 10 o’clock so there’s more dry coming though, but you’re still getting the pump. Otherwise I’ll send the Kick to a separate out when recording so it’s not effecting the comp at all. That equals no volume changes since the high energy of the kick is not in play at all.

Blockquote THR (Threshold) sets the threshold of the compressor. A lower threshold means a larger portion of the signal will be subject to compression. There is a bar on the rightmost edge of the screen which will visu-ally represent the amount of compression. (0–127)

Where is this gain reduction bar? I’m sure I’m compressing the hell out of the mix but I don’t see no bar going on the compressor page… (AR mk2)

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They removed it for the MK2

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Oh why? Haha

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Now I know why I am so confused - such an important feature! How should I know if anything is compressing :grinning: I’ll never memorize what each knob is doing exactly​:upside_down_face:

I would use a daw based RMS meter to figure out the settings early on, as you get comfortable with adapting your ears to hear the compression curves.

You should try the MD compressor sometime. It will make you love the Rytm MK2 comp, absent metering and all.

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I do have an OT if that counts :sweat_smile:

MD is much worse. Some but not all values are inverted. It’s maddening.

OT comp is actually my favorite Elektron compressor. Even without sidechain, it behaves properly and can always p-lock it to overcome the absence of sidechain.

Rytm comp has good mojo, however.

It does! Though when I first used it (yesterday) I thought my AR mk2 is broken because of the heavy noise :relaxed: but a few random knob twists later I was all set - it’s not bad indeed!

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So I’ve spent the last week or so doing my best to understand the compressor on the rytm. I’ve been listening to other artists music and spending more time dialing in different settings for my own music.
I feel like you can’t talk about the compression without the distortion involved in some way.
They feel like one effect to me.
Anyone else feel similarly?

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No. Not sure how you re doing it but i can easily apply them separately.

Yes, I mean more that since they both affect the volume in dynamic ways, that changing settings on one changes the way the other sounds.

Definitely.

Just speaking more to the way one interacts with the other.

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Ah yes, the distortion affects volume and so the compressor will react differently, and heavy compression will naturally change the sound of everything.

Here s a tip for dialing in compression: start with comp full wet, max threshold, max ratio, min attack, release auto 1 or 2, make up gain at a level so it sounds similar to the dry signal.

Because of max threshold, unless you re coming in way (too) hot, the compressor is not triggering. Start turning back threshold till output level is starting to sound squashed. Now start tweaking ratio, attack and decay till you get pleasing dynamics. setting threshold carefully is key, but also hard with untrained ears because of the lack of gain reduction feedback.

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Btw, compression doesn’t necessarily improve any and all material.

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Thanks mate,
I’ll try that little test out.
I haven’t used the auto settings for the release much yet.
I’m definitely still getting a feel for which settings I like the sound of. Maybe I’ll use the two separately this week!

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Nice little trick I found is that if you turn compressor vol to zero, you just hear the reverb and delay wet sound. Map to a performance control and its a really nice way to add little breaks at the end of a bar etc.

I definitely need to learn to use the compressor better. Right now I’m kinda turning knobs at random which sometimes sounds better and sometimes doesn’t! Any tips welcome. I do miss the meter from other Elektron devices for sure.

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