Rytm and Tempest redundant?

mezz303 · 2014-11-15T07:45:46.000Z

""baseck"":

hey all!

first time post here. i seen a topic on the beloved tempest and i thought i’d chime in with my beautiful experience with such a ground breaking machine i haven’t spent more then a half hour with the AR but it does seem like a very powerful machine. i would love to have one along with my tempest. people trash the tempest all the time but they only use it for maybe a kick or snare. spend some time with only that machine and you’ll realize it’s a sound design beast, and extremely well put together for live functionality. I’ve used only the tempest and a reverb pedal in live sets for over 2 years. if you know how to design drum sounds, the flexibility is amazing. in my project TWIN BRAIDS, Joy Through Noise and i use 2 tempests and a reverb pedal.

here’s me “putting my money where my mouth is”

tempest idm style
BASECK on Instagram: "Morning Meditation // #idm2084 #davesmithinstruments #drummachine #analogsynth"
BASECK on Instagram: "Tonight will be the first Twin Braids set we do rocking only double Tempests! Super Hyped! www.CelebrateEverything.LA @davesmithinstruments"

beefy drum & bass
BASECK on Instagram: "coming up with some new sounds for the party I'm playing next week in Pittsburgh! #malekko #davesmithinstruments"
BASECK on Instagram: "space traveler"

for the synth
BASECK on Instagram: "new DSI tempest commercial #davesmithinstruments #dsitempest #rogerlinn #baseck #ambient #analogsynthesizer #drummachine #analogdrummachine"

live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LlfnulW40k

interview with lots of tempest:
https://vimeo.com/94683770

in the studio right now i have an octatrack, machinedrum, and a borrowed analog four… would also love to add an analog rytm to that in the future!

ANALOG DRUMMERS, DRUM ON!

rock on rebel warriors,
-baseck

I’m convinced. I will have to get one soon.
Great finger drumming on the live vid.

Accent · 2014-11-15T09:24:40.000Z

[quote=“” baseck""]
hey all!

first time post here. i seen a topic on the beloved tempest and i thought i’d chime in with my beautiful experience with such a ground breaking machine i haven’t spent more then a half hour with the AR but it does seem like a very powerful machine. i would love to have one along with my tempest. people trash the tempest all the time but they only use it for maybe a kick or snare. spend some time with only that machine and you’ll realize it’s a sound design beast, and extremely well put together for live functionality. I’ve used only the tempest and a reverb pedal in live sets for over 2 years. if you know how to design drum sounds, the flexibility is amazing. in my project TWIN BRAIDS, Joy Through Noise and i use 2 tempests and a reverb pedal.

here’s me “putting my money where my mouth is”

tempest idm style
http://instagram.com/p/rC47bxDtMR/
http://instagram.com/p/pwf_gmDtDk/

beefy drum & bass
http://instagram.com/p/icMX4uDtFW/
http://instagram.com/p/fqzm7LjtBI

for the synth
http://instagram.com/p/cwpcEHDtL3/

live

interview with lots of tempest:
https://vimeo.com/94683770

in the studio right now i have an octatrack, machinedrum, and a borrowed analog four… would also love to add an analog rytm to that in the future!

ANALOG DRUMMERS, DRUM ON!

rock on rebel warriors,
-baseck

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Baseck!!!
I love your work. I messaged you a couple days ago on FB to find a video I wanted to post to this specific thread (and I don’t think the PT. 2 at The Complex was the one, but whatevs…the one I remember was a straight on video (shot like PT.1 with a comment about changing styles) that was more Aphex-y), but what I’ve seen you do with the Tempest tells me plenty about the potential it has.
Been a fan since I heard the stuff you put out on Subcon…glad to see you around these parts.
/fanboy off.

baseck · 2014-11-15T10:50:41.000Z

@accent

Thanks! Oh and maybe this is the one you’re talking about?

The video was edited to only show the design of the synth sound, the drum part got cut

A good friend goes on tour soon, so maybe I can borrow the RYTM!

http://vimeo.com/94488096

Shoki · 2014-11-15T11:01:23.000Z

If you have an Octatrack, a Nord Drum 2 is a little monster with a HUGE sound !

whet · 2014-11-15T13:34:50.000Z

I like your stuff aswell Baseck, very unique and it shows how the Tempest is intended to use, as an analog syntesis laboratory AND performance instrument.

Just discovered your soundcloud page, i hear plenty of tempest… if those drums are not punchy etc. i dont know what people demand…

CRE8 CELEBR8 blows me away atm, total tempest distruction, what a track o0 .

monocon · 2014-11-16T16:31:00.000Z

I´ve made a video too to proof the strength of Tempest!
Octatrack included

Greez…

PS: Sorry for my head bouncing in all the time.

mezz303 · 2014-11-16T18:18:18.000Z

Nice vids guys. Now I really want one.

whet · 2014-11-16T19:16:29.000Z

Great showcase @ maxicosi, i like those fills.

J_C_Selector · 2014-11-16T20:24:20.000Z

""Maxicosi"":

PS: Sorry for my head bouncing in all the time.

Dude, now I have a sore neck !
Mad skills there, Great work.

Also, I think this proves the Tempest is in no way redundant.

Madchiller · 2014-11-16T21:58:26.000Z

""Maxicosi"":

I´ve made a video too to proof the strength of Tempest!
Octatrack included

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71wKmwTO8Ls

Greez…

PS: Sorry for my head bouncing in all the time.

Good shit bro. Tempest most definitely not redundant. Just different. The octatrack was already on my wish list, and now I think I will grab a tempest at some point. The possibilities of the AR+Tempest+octatrack are mind boggling. I love my AR already, and still have much to learn.

monocon · 2014-11-17T15:43:19.000Z

Thanks guys!

MC-505 · 2014-11-17T22:14:11.000Z

Having read this entire forum (!), it seems both Rytm and Tempest are very powerful. Since buying one of the first Sidstations, Elektron always interested me. Not so far covered in this forum are the nature of the sequencer in these machines. Comparing them to the Roland MC-505, which is familiar to me, neither seems to have 96 ticks/quarter note MIDI resolution. Both seem to have some variation on a fixed note value, such as quaver, semiquaver or triplet variations (i.e. from 48 ticks down to 12 ticks). In “MC-505 speak”, you can’t nudge a beat back or forward by a single tick. If so, it’s a bit of a retrograde design, when more ancient drum boxes with less powerful processors do this. Have got my head round Parameter Locks, which seem similar to Korg and Roland’s motion sequencer idea, that puts multiple or single CC messages in a MIDI track, or the alternative of mapping multiple edited variations of the same sample to adjacent MIDI note #. Is this correct, please?

Those pads on the Rytm? Isn’t it possible to make some beats and check what the range/ dymanics are? That will give a definitive answer - say velocity from 30 to 88 - or whatever. Just a suggestion, to end an argument…

It will be great to take a look at this fantastic new gear and decide which to get, to add new things, not duplicating what existing gear does. Really enjoyed this forum and thanks
everyone who contributed.

JuanSOLO · 2014-11-20T23:02:24.000Z

Maxicosi, that was ill! Especially the very beginning.

Not sure why you aren’t using at least 2 voice outs, kick/snare, and then mains into the OT.

Mezzanine · 2014-11-21T00:13:11.000Z

Well after a lot if yes and no going through my head I finally pulled the trigger… I literally wish I could lick my self in a room for a year and just play with these 2 together. I haven’t hooked them both up together yet but tonight I wiill. Look forward to having them both run into Octatrack… The Tempest is really deep.

secretmusic · 2014-11-21T17:10:11.000Z

""JuanSOLO"":

Maxicosi, that was ill! Especially the very beginning.

Not sure why you aren’t using at least 2 voice outs, kick/snare, and then mains into the OT.

voice cycling on the Tempest. One of the many gripes the users have with it. And something that some people conveniently ignore.

JuanSOLO · 2014-11-24T03:35:52.000Z

The voice allocation never bothered me about Tempest.
Seeing that you can assign pads to voices ensuring them, then using the mains as kind of a free for all for the cycling.
I like the way that worked.

Purusha · 2014-11-24T08:59:02.000Z

Yeah - I like the flexibility of voice allocation too.

It’s a bit like the shared voices on Rytm (where 2 pads share the same voice), but you can configure it however you want.

I find using different pads for different sounds (a consequence of that mechanism) more intuitive than using P-locks to pull in different patches in a sequence.

monocon · 2014-12-11T20:59:26.000Z

""JuanSOLO"":

Maxicosi, that was ill! Especially the very beginning.

Not sure why you aren’t using at least 2 voice outs, kick/snare, and then mains into the OT.

Thank you for this tip. Honestly i´ve never thought of that dont know why.
It was a lot of work because i had to change lots of tempest projects and octatrack banks.
Now my kicks and snares are way more punchy and i can put more reverb on the other sounds.
Totally worth it!

Thanks again

KOTARE · 2015-01-04T09:15:31.000Z

""ZenPunkHippy"":

[quote=“clunky”]rude is saying an instrument is crap without backing that statement up with undoubted credibility.

So you like to attack people, instead of providing valid criticism of a machine?
Anyway, I will ask again since you avoided the question:
Where is your sysex?[/quote]
Yeah Clunky, where the fuck is your sysex??

lol.

Bitsnbobs · 2023-08-09T15:58:00.973Z

I have both and they’re both cool
I love the rytm for its immediacy and flexibility
I love the tempest for its timbre and it’s interface (it’s sort of a machinedrum sps1 non uw but with an analog sound engine - sps1 non uw is my favourite piece of digital gear ever it’s so versatile and deep and has the crtl-all feature on the top panel without any setup) the tempest can get really fucked up really quickly
rytm can also go nutty but seems more sedate overall with it’s synthesis and of course once you add samples you can go anywhere
Currently rytm is an a drawer and tempest is on the table but eventually they’ll swap or join up or whatever feels right at the time