Roland TR-8S - (New TR-8 with user samples and individual outs)


#569

Fascinating. The sound quality, inflexible sample transfer and this pattern cutoff bug was what made me sell mine. Indeed a case of YMMV.

The lofi samples onboard the electribe was a downer as well. Korg used reduced sampling rate for the factory sounds in order to fit more into the machine, and didn’t feel it was necessary to advertise this… And intentionally crippling the filter too, what was up with that? IMO the electribe sampler was a missed opportunity for Korg, first the intentionally cripple the volca sample so everyone would buy the electribe sampler… And then they release a half-baked product and kill its development before it ever matured. Piss poor IMHO.


#570

When I saw the TR 8S specs. I was immediately reminded of the Electribe 2 concept and thought how great it was that Roland did improve that with a better UI.

That pattern gap of the ER2 was one of the things that let me go for an AR. Sad to see Roland making exactly the same mistake. So no buy, can not have that in a performance groove box.


#571

Believe me, once you kno it is there, you will notice. It’s a curse


#572

This… I can relate.

What do you mean ?

Yes indeed. I actually think the volca sample is more interesting. At least what is does to the sound can have musical applications, like crunchy beats.


#573

Oh… and the volca sample has immediate pattern change with no gap too :wink:


#574

I got rid of the electribe last year and I have no plan to get another one as I’m very satisfied with the DT… but I’ll test it eventually.

Even if the TR is cursed (:joy:) it may not be a problem for me as the way I play with a TR does not imply changing patterns but editing one pattern on the fly, playing with faders, fills, etc. Joys of very simple music I guess.


#575

plastic or not, my original TR-8 was built like a fucking tank. I expect this to be no different.
I think I’d take Roland’s build quality over our hosts here on this forum for the most part.


#576

On GS

Yep. 1.02 and it sounds like enough of a pause to where the new kit is being loaded in.

I’ll post a video later this morning, today.

Not good for me


#577

Have you contacted Roland about this? Its a deal breaker if it can’t be fixed.


#578

Damn… also the reason I sold my electribe.
Instant deal breaker for me too :frowning:


#579

Whenever I see one of the new Electribes, I’m somewhat frustrated over the missed opportunity to make a real next level music box.

I totally get the feature set and the choices made, and I didn’t mind the menu diving much, but I just can’t see why cutting envelopes and fx between patterns ever would’ve been considered an interesting limitation. There’s a difference between leaving something out, and just not doing it well.

I know people make entire albums on these things and some just don’t mind, but that’s no excuse for sloppy implementation, especially when you’re touching on something so great.

So that was a bit off topic. Sorry about that.


#580

I don’t think this was intended as an “interesting” limitation, but rather as development constraint.

Not cutting instrument decays and effects tails means you need to keep surplus processing capacity available and/or do smart stuff with voice stealing.

On the one hand I agree with that statement, on the other hand it’s not like you can switch effect type on a DSI Prophet 6 without getting a truncated reverb tail either…


#581

Its a good point, that E2S was really close to a great machine. I’m sure Korg will be releasing a new model soon, let hope they get the balance right. If the Roland has the same effect clipping/not instant pattern changing it will flop with the hardcore musicians. I don’t own a TR-8s so i will wait to see if this issue is a reality.


#582

Somehow, that doesn’t bother me at all on the Prophet 6. I guess it’s a matter of managing expectations. I wasn’t expecting the Prophet 6 to handle such things. I was expecting the Electribe to handle it.


#583

Well, exactly. That’s why I was doing the “one the one hand … on the other hand” thing… :wink:


#584

:slight_smile:

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#585

Two little bits of extra info RE E2/ES2:
*** Electribe Sampler 2 and Electribe 2***

  1. The tails don’t cut if the next pattern has the same fx on the same slots

  2. It’s not just the fx getting cut. There’s actually a gap of silence between patterns. When I got mine I recorded the outputs into a daw while changing patterns, there a chunk of complete silence. Small but there


#586

You gotta be effing kidding me. This pattern gap bs is freaking pathetic. Now, I feel like I have to cancel my order. Unbelievable.


#587

wow, that’s totally unacceptable. No wonder they go for 250 euro secondhand.


#588

Surely they tested this obvious scenario prior to release. Odd.