Roland TR-1000 User Thread

Far worse than the timing is the sample freeze up issue. I can’t use the machine the way I want until they fix this. Just locked up on me again when I was chopping a sample that I recorded in and did not import. So it is something with the sampler that they have to fix. It’s the only truly maddening thing I have dealt with on this machine.

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Ya maybe that’s part of the issue. I have much higher buffer cuz I use a lot of plugins. But even a fresh session and lowere settings and it’s still an issue. And I can’t get it to start mid way thought the track properly. Only off the top.

Yeah… FW is def not done. The price we pay for being early adopters. No way I’d trust it for a live gig anytime soon, too dicey. Sucks about the freezing, at least it seems to be related to the sampler FWIW

Realizing I’m maybe going about it wrong. Trying to softwar monitor inside logic. Will try monitoring through Apollo and low latency tomorrow.

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Second time this happened, been working for a few hours no issues. I just barely grazed the morph slider (no morphs programmed) with my right hand and it stopped playing. Wouldn’t start again, had to shut down and restart. I had recently saved so no big deal but yeah…

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Turns out you can’t add multiple variations on the same line in song mode anymore. Big bummer… that looked like a great feature. Hope they bring it back.

Same goes for shift and selecting a variation to edit “silently” while another variation is playing, they scrapped that functionality too. As well as momentary mutes, gone. Looks like earlier FW had lots of good features they junked, hope they add them back in cause it’s a bit of a bait & switch.

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My experience with the encoders

  1. Because the encoders are super sensitive I’m experiencing too many overshoots when selecting a value or list item. This requires focussed attention and precision that does not align with the speed at which the overall interface allows you to work the machine.
  2. Because the encoder detects rotation speed, quickly correcting an overshoot often leads to an overshoot the other way.
  3. Holding SHIFT is not helpful when wanting to dial in discrete logical values, or quickly want to set a value to zero. Holding SHIFT fixes the random value you were at when pressing SHIFT an step from there.
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Since when? Has it been removed in an update?

Are all these things still in the manual?

Oh man! Heterogeneity indeed.

####All tracks, master.

Tightest BUT for some people it’s wonky. No consensus as to why. But for most it’s tight.

All tracks slave

No flamming in non layer tracks, but 50-64ms (reported) latency when slacked.

Layered gens master

You’ll get flamming using the same sample on non layer tracks. But no wonk reported.

Layered gens slave

5-8ms latency. You will get flamming.

Jitter

Various accounts of jitter between all tracks and layered gens across multiple forums. Again, no consensus.

Fundamental issues

There is no standard testing procedure. No 16 hats test. Everyone is running a different system. Difficult to debug.

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It’s not in 1.11. There’s no way to add more than one variation per line, you have to make a new line for each variation, tell it how many repeats etc.

The manual doesn’t reflect the current build… lots in the manual isn’t in 1.11 like I mentioned. Also the shift and start function that’s supposed to start the pattern over… not there

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Also, some people are still on the old firmware.

Some people might have missed that if they change settings, they have to save the system to store these settings (otherwise after a reboot the settings will be reverted)

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You do know that you can use the arrow knobs after selecting a parameter with the encoders for fine adjustments?

yes, but that does not solve the above mentioned issues.

Seems like user error:

From the manual:

Not sure if you held the VARI-CHAIN button while editing the song?

So you should not use Shift + variation, but TR-REC + variation to edit it without playing.

About the shift+Start: I think this is a bug, heard more people saying it doesn’t work as expected.

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Completely agree. It was one of the first things I noticed.
The arrow buttons don’t work for fine adjustments in a lot of menus… i.e in GEN the arrow buttons switch pages.

My other bugbear with the main UI is you can’t cancel a selection… open up a list menu like for GEN or Kit etc… scroll down the menu - it selects the item.
You can’t cancel out of it. Your previous setting is gone.

It would have been better to PREVIEW the selection when you’re in the list. Press ENTER to select it or press EXIT to cancel and go back to what you had before.

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You do know you have to hold Shift + arrow buttons to finely adjust the values?

I don’t have the TR-1000 yet, but as I understand it should work like this:

Move encoder of the value you want to adjust.
Then hold shift + arrow buttons to finely adjust the value.

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So weird. You should always be able to abort your selection while browsing a list. If not, you are not incentivised to browse instruments because you have to remember your previous one if you want to revert back. You can hold MENU and press INST to reload the instrument though.

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I’ll try this, I read online it was removed but hope I’m wrong thanks!

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Hey there just checking in to say the Ck2 sync and delay adjustments all work ok here once I worked out which settings adjust the note timing and which change the clocking. Roll on the CK manual being updated!

Locked in tight with both Cubase and Ableton too so seamlessly able to switch between DAW sync, or circklon sync and record. OK will prob have to adjust everything the minute anything changes but hopefully I will remember which settings to adjust when it does :smiley:

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