The Loopop video shows time stretch.
12:00 minutes in.
Strange that Loopop showed the chromatic mode and listed the limitation of that mode as it being that it’s monophonic, but didn’t mention it couldn’t be recorded. I wouldn’t have guessed that.
Is it even legal for Roland to tell businesses that normally provide shipping overseas that they aren’t allowed to do so. And then Jack up the prices in those other countries. I’m not even in a rush to but I’ve of these things but it’s a really bad precedent if that becomes standard process. Feels like they taking the piss.
Thanks for this Alex, that is actually a pretty good workaround.
I imagine it’s part of the deal that roland has with Thomann, and they can enforce it by making things hard for Thomann, up to refusing to sell them any gear, if they don’t comply.
It’s hardly moral, but I don’t imagine it’s illegal.
Happens all the time. Different products released in different territories and at different prices. Perfectly legal. Depends on the distribution license per territory. If a retailers breaks the license they’ll risk either getting ditched or sued.
It’s similar to (but not quite the same as) BP selling petrol globally. It’s £1.39 per litre in the UK but only $0.55 in the States. Same company. Same product.
And I just confirmed with a Thomann support assistant that their est. stock is at least Nov 30.
Fingers crossed it’ll be earlier 
Does anyone know if you can REC in something while playing listening to some of the pads or the sequencer? (only recording the input signal that is, not the skip back which records the master signal)
It’s strange that chromatic mode doesn’t get recorded but 16 levels velocity does… Typical Roland.
Very odd isn’t it? I’m trying to wrap my head around this. I feel it may be due to the limitations of the original 404 sequencer. No idea why Roland didn’t decide to update it. Frankly the 404 sequencer sucks and requires workarounds for standard stuff.
Another workaround to pad duplication would be to play a chromatic melody while a sequence is running, sample the pad the melody is generating from and assign the end result to a pad for playing back in the sequence.
These are things I used to do in the OG404 and 404SX, which I do not miss. 
I found the SP series inspiring in their limitations for making lo-fi hip hop, but the end result always sounded muddy and messy due to the lack of fine tuning. I moved on to MPCs and Ableton Live for crafting music and used the 404 for performing it.
Maybe, which solves half of the problem, but converting samples taken on the SP is still needed.
48khz was initially used to make digital copying of CD more difficult, then later adopted by DVD on the grounds that it is better than 44.1khz CD quality (not that any human could tell, but marketing wins again) So now we have this strange reality where in pro/semi pro gear manufacturers can’t decide on a standard, most consumer grade converters are 48khz, most pro samplers support 44.1khz, some support multiple rates, but really any that only have 1 rate then it should be 44.1, not 48.
Andertons are saying 15th December for my order.
i think resampling the chromatic mode to pads, recording it with the sequencer and resampling the sequence to 1 pad won’t take too much time, so it’s a good workaround
blame governments and their archaic customs/tax regulation and new anti-dropshipping strategies
I prefer samples. No simulation sounds natural enough to me. Would rather use a bitcrusher with bitrate set between 9 and 11 bits.
The noise in Little Radioter is sometimes also useful.
Edit:
Though I might not notice it being a simulation when others are using them in their music
I ordered two because why not. I’m keeping my collection of sp404s because the changes introduced in the mkii are so extreme that in my opinion this unit could have had a new name, a higher price tag and could have co-existed with the 404 range. The fact that Roland has approached this the way they have is extraordinary (in a good way).
People are still using the sp202’s to this day so we know these things last. The only problem would be the longevity of the screen, the simple screen in the 404A will last a long time. I’m looking forward to receiving this and I have not been this exited for a new toy in years. I bet you this move will have the compitition scratching their heads.
No joke! That was by far the most entertaining and inspirational of the SP-404 mkII videos I’ve watched.
I think it’s called 10 
Thougt the same, didn’t dare 
What the heck! Coming from the world of Elektron and its labyrinth of an OS and workflow, I pulled the trigger and got me one of this as a Xmas pressie. It seems to strike a balance between immediacy and fun with depth and discovery. Very likely it’ll reach us between late Nov to mid Dec!
I was hemming to buy mine either from them or Anderton’s but… Thomann uses UPS or Royal Mail… UPSucks when compared to DHLove.