With this knowledge, you can now be at one with the universe.
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Roll is so janky. I guess it makes sense to just resample some roll patterns, but it definitely sucks you can’t program it into the sequence. Also, no triplets?
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This is the way it was designed.
Skip back is a catch all to help you record happy accidents. It will record everything, all the time.
You have it down though. Wherever you want to play from the stereo mix, first record what you want to play along with to a pad, that way you can mute the pad and pad link. and trigger playback by pressing the pad you want to record to.
But you have the workflow pretty much down, and it gets really fast once you do it for a couple days.
The roll feature is for when you are live playing into a pattern or resample, or DJ mode. It’s similar to what the Beatstep pro does.
But you can program rolls or triplets into the sequence. It’s the substep option in the tr rec mode recording. It’s when you start to record a pattern and you hit remain.
You can do three substeps or 4 substeps. And all the different variations of them.
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Instant dubstebs! 
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haha… I was wondering what that was referring to… it turns out substep isnt a word, and my iphone auto corrected them!
I do love substep, er I mean dubstep…
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So I know hitting resample in the edit sample snaps to zero point but what does toggling remain do?
Thank you! Idk how I missed that.
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are we still loving PlayBox?
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Thanks. It makes sense.
I will rehearse the method you describe.
it is all a matter of muscle memory , and knowing the tricks before you need them.
As with a lot of influencer videos… seems the love was just for launch.
Looks like a cool VST, but it seemed like it had the possibility of being more form over function. Haven’t used it myself though, so what the heck do I know 
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Thank you for this…
I was looking at some videos, and the sounds weren’t hitting me. And the graphic for noise being hair was kinda gross to me. I was going to try for the chord generator aspect of it, but then I realized I just signed up for piano lessons, and might as well learn them the old fashioned way
As Im trying to navigate all the samples I just bought, I need to develop a system to manage my sounds.
But I also noticed something else… I bought all of AJ Hall’s Left Field Drum Breaks. He made them in 8 bar and 16 bar loops. I wanted to chop them up granularly, and make a new break, pitch them around… do some work on them… but it seems hard to process long samples in a cohesive manner to figure out how to make another loop…
What is a good approach to making a pattern or new sample via resampling something longer than 8 bars…
the TR REC mode is too clunky, waiting for the play head to come around.
I could do it in 4 bar sections, then resample the sections, then resequences them, but I lose the ability to change course if its not developing the way I want…
Unless I just keep that to Logic, and only use one shots on the 404.
basically just building the drum loop up in Logic, then layering everything else in the 404…
Your thoughts?
Is it just me, or does normalize not work every time for very long files? Sometimes it seems to do zilch.
First, this is a thing I appreciate most about the 404. I can’t change course so I don’t, and I finish more stuff, and when I listen to it again in a week I’m like “That was dope. Why was I unhappy with that?” So maybe consider just baking it and moving forward.
But to keep things flexible regardless, you don’t have to throw out old patterns just because you’ve resampled them. The 404 gives you tons of banks. You could use a bank-per-loop and not run out of space.
And patterns sequence pads not samples. So if you replace the sample on a pad, the pattern will play the updated version.
So flip your break in 4 bar chunks and chain those sequences to play together to get a feel. When you’re happy with it and ready to add more, resample it and start a new pattern in a new bank that triggers your new resampled 16 bars plus anything else you want to add.
Rinse, repeat. If you decide down the line you really need to fix one thing in the break, you’ve only got to mess with one 4-bar pattern, then resample the whole thing to the same pad, and you should be good.
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Yes, thats right… this is a good warning, but also great tool if I want to try a different kick in a pattern that I TR REC!
This one sentence is dense with information… so basically, chop up the break as finely as I want across as many pads as it takes… get it to a 4 bar loop, then I can apply the ABAC method that the TR8s taught me…
I really appreciate your input!
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It’s a pretty consistent way to do it… and if what jemmons pointed out to you wasn’t quite clear… once you’ve got your new pattern going… you can edit a pad and change all the sounds for that pad when it triggers on a pattern.
So if you’ve got an ABACABAD, and you wanted to switch out B, add some effects, or something… just edited that pad you’ve got for B by changing start time, resampling with a new pitch, swapping pads, whatever makes sense.
Also… if you don’t know, you can assign which pads go to which effects on your effects bus (or skip the bus altogether) by holding REMAIN and pressing the pad. Besides getting patterns going, this can be a great way to drop in a delay, scatter, downer, or other effects to keep things changing up and moving in interesting ways.
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EDIT. In which mode is this? Pattern record?
Whoa… I need to process this! So I can process a pad through either bus 1 or bus 2 or bus 3 and 4 as they run in parallel (right?)
and if I have my pattern samples broken down to a per page format, then i can swap out a sample on a pad thats on a page thats dedicated to a specific pattern. But also swap out pads from other pages to have a sound to bridge between as well… meaning dont be 100% strict with only B page pads go to B page pattern…
actually, each page can have 16 patterns so its almost exponential as you work up the file structure.
This is alot. But Im also happy to have this discussion, because this thread usually just keeps answering the same fundamental questions over and over again, which is needed, but having a more advanced discusion on workflow is also helpful to people looking for info.
thank you both!
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From Sample mode you can assign effect buses.
I’ve laid it out pretty well in videos and the guide I wrote. Video 1.3, 2.5, and 18.0 all look relevant.
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