Finally got me a Mk2. Used to love my SX but sold it couple of years back for a few reasons, all of which the Mk2 has fixed. First impression is that this is the box I have always been looking for, love it.
Maybe a bit extreme but now selling almost all my other gear, driven by what I think of the Mk2 in tandem with a burning desire to go more minimal and gonna start going through the 5000 odd posts on here haha.
This is a little bit much in terms of destruction and off levels - but it’s also shown me the potential for nailing some really gritty/lo-fi banging techno out of it
Need to get some more workflow things nailed down, like resampling variations of all the parts individually and then reconstructing the patterns back again with elements having different tones and effects on them
I’m resampling sounds. I actually just fucked with the pitching of the kick and effects here, pitching it down, isolator, distortion, other effects to get the sounds around the kick, played them and the kick into a pattern. Made another pattern adding the offbeat hat, and then another one with the baseline, and then another one with a sample which is taken from the film Bodies Bodies Bodies, which when I repitched and resampled a bit ended up serendipitously sounding like 2 different vocal samples that have some funk, as all the compression brought out the background Foley.
That’s a long way of saying make patterns, then resample them. Oh - I use the skipback to catch the resampling and then just try my best to get a perfect loop. I’ll end up having to spend time carefully warning in live… Doesn’t matter for hip hop but dance music needs to be mixable.
What I’ll try and do later is add some extra panned drums/percs - will see if I can make a pattern for each resampled pattern which play for 8 bars - that way I get some control over adding further variations
hi guys, i have a problem with resampling and did not find a solution yet. If i resample a pad that is not in fixed velocity the resampled pad has a lower volume than the original one. This is what i assume happens: I strike the original pad with e.g. 70% volume, the resampled pad has now a max vol. of 70%. But when i strike it i strike again with 70% and therefore hear a reduced volume. Is there a way to resample (without using fixed velocity, or hitting the pad as hard as i can) and get the same volume for original and resampled pad?
Well the (only) benefit of not using fixed velocity is that you have variation in velocity between the samples you trigger, which inevitably means that the ones you play with less velocity will be less loud… if you don’t want that you should just use fixed velocity. If you want to boost the overall loudness afterwards there’s some fx which can help you, but then some will be louder than the original sample, and others less loud.
One thing to make sure is that your banks don’t have a lower volume setting. This messed me up for a while, because then stuff gets less loud every time you resample as well.
I’m not sure if this would work, but in the start/stop or chop menu, when you press the encoder and there’s an option to normalize. This brings the level up.
What? Haha, this makes no sense. You want the resample to be the same volume as the original, but for some reason you don’t want to use fixed velocity? I mean, you could compress or normalize it, but why?
no i want the resample to be the same velocity as the way i hear it when striking the original pad. I hit the pad and achieve 70% velocity. But the resampled pad is more quiet when i hit it with the same force as the original
edit: the main use case is to quickly apply an effect on a pad via resampling without swapping back and forth between log and fixed velocity pad mode. There is no effect bounce option, right? Applying effects only works via resampling.
Your ex-SP Forums as well? Nice! I was/still am a mod but logged in like once since ‘16, when the mk2 was announced. The beat battles were loads of fun way back when.
It slowly died for a few reasons- the owners of the forums took a hands off approach to running it & never actively tried to grow or maintain it. It was swamped by spambots for a while. Roland never took any real interest in growing that fan base/community. Then larger all-in-one websites like Reddit & the Stones Throw forum replaced everything the SP Forums had to offer.
Very cool sampler! Would love one to sample modular and use on the go without carry large cases. But is it worth getting if I already have the mighty Octatrack?
Think of it this way. Pad 1 @ 70% volume is just Pad 1 @ 100% volume with 30% taken off the top, right? Similarly, Pad 2 @ 70% volume is just whatever is in Pad 2 @ 100% with 30% taken off the top. Both are attenuated by the same 30%.
Because the amount of attenuation is the same in both, you also need the unattenuated sample to be the same for both so that, when both attenuated by the same amount, they both end up in the same place. In other words, you need Pad 2 @ 100% volume to be equal to Pad 1 @ 100% volume.
Thus when resampling to Pad 2, you need to play Pad 1 at 100%.
There a lot at variables you could try to dial in.
First I would play around with the pad settings. You can bring up the gain, or adjust the threshold so you striking the pad is louder.
But it seems like if you should choose how you want to express the sample. You could hit the pad and then see if it’s good before resampling, but you may need to adjust the level up.
Or you could sample at fixed and dial the gain back to your likings. You may need to add a step either way.
In my opinion, I think you would get a more consistent workflow by having fixed, then adjusting the sample to your liking afterwards. That way if your processing a bunch of samples a certain way, then you can dial the gain back the same way every time and keep a flow going.
The other way you may be taken out of the flow by having different levels that always need to be addressed individually.
As with all Roland products, they are consistent with being frustrating until you get like Bruce lee.