Roland Jupiter 08 & n/vision synths (boutique before you get too excited)

Ya, and what was the most common complaint in the super series? No screen.

And what happened next? He proceeded to add a super nice screen on the DMNO. In other words, the guy listened and his product evolved into something manageable for people to use.

Lol I see the confusion now. In respect to LCD, I meant lowest common denominator, not the LCD screen.

If you really own an Ise Nin, I don’t think you have to spend a second thinking about any other Jupiter 8 clone or reissue.

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if i didnt have my jupiter 8 and prophet 5 owned by legendary musician Jonathon Cain of Journey, i would buy the jupiter 08

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I don’t, but seeing as how the middle-ground between the price of an ise nin vs. the boutique is virtually barren outside of the synths we discussed, it piques my curiosity if Roland gives us something a bit more that bumps into that middle-ground range.

I have a small collection of the boutiques over the last decade before I could afford to go bigger on equipment, so to me, this was finding out if they offered any QoL improvement from all the other V2 boutiques. I stopped out at the JD-08 and JU-06a and contemplated selling those since I don’t really use them, but opted to keep them as collectables for the time being.

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Official Japan release date is November 7. I was trying to pick this up today and they said it’s only a display model. Overall the sliders are better now.

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How did it sound in person?

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Iā€˜m wondering if the new boutiques are slightly broader. The Thomann product page says 308 mm, for the other boutiques it says 300 mm. But maybe that’s just because the keys make it a bit wider?

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Better than the YouTube demos. Like you mentioned earlier if you have a tight studio space like in Japan or from Gear Hoarding this thing will do. The keys are meh but the sound is good enough to write music to. In the Shibuya store I was listening to it through a keyboard amp and it was nice sounding.

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Man. I remember seeing the Ise-nin years ago thinking geez, that’s one beautiful sounding synth. Then finding out it’s a fantastic Jupiter clone.
Then finding out the price! :sweat_smile:
Then shelving the idea of getting anything like the Jupiter.

And now here’s this chibi Jupiter, with extra voices and at a fraction of both of their prices. I know it’s emulating the sound, but it’s good enough for me.
This gives me a chance at a synth that I thought was in the realm of used car prices.

I’m also surprised Japan has a wait until 7 November. Thought it would be sooner since it’s home grown, but there’s plenty to do and learn in the meantime.

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Yeah, comments I’ve seen from some Japanese people have noted Roland is unlikely to do another take on it until the 50th anniversary, so that’s five years away.

Also, the price is not too crazy in Japan considering how much we are reamed for everything from overseas these days. One of the Japanese comments I noticed was saying they assumed it would be at least 100,000 yen since it’s for the anniversary.

From what I saw in the Sonic State video they packed a lot of functionality in. They might be able to move to a universal driver eventually. They updated the MC-101 for that at one point I believe.

I’m looking forward to hearing how the other effects sound.

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This is definitely a ā€œlazyā€ release but at the end of the day they are a business and I can just about forgive this since the TR-1000 is recent and is substantive work.

The worst part is the endless half assed job they do. So near yet so far. It’s like one day they want to release a real Jupiter 8 but they are gonna milk it for everything it’s possibly worth first.

8 voice ACB boutique should next at least :joy:

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To make things even more odd, the SH-4D became class compliant with firmware 2.0, so Roland are clearly aware that class compliance is something people want, and are clearly capable of doing it, but still aren’t making new products class compliant.

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I have to say , the Roland promo email did look like a parody with the original at the top and the toys at the bottom :slight_smile:

That said it does sound great, I’d like one but not at over Ā£600

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That image was from Jexus too :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Even buying it used was a good chunk of change, but really no other company offered an alternative, except maybe UDO’s Super 8, which is something I’ve wanted but have no room for.

If it’s good enough for you, it’s good enough for you, no one will argue that. Even though I have a Superlative SB01 and use it a lot more, the SH01a is still my fav of the boutiques. Tr-09 is my 2nd fav.

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So Iā€˜ve finally watched the sonicstate video on the N/vision and my suspicion from studying the panel was confirmed: this is a great interface to have fun playing around with wavetables. I love now it takes cues from the streamlined design of vintage synths like Jupiter 8 or 101 where you have some controls for modulation right there on the panel so you don’t need any screen or assigning process. I don’t care that it only has one LFO, I think what’s there on the panel is more than enough. I think you can also skip everything that’s buried in a menu because if that and so the display doesn’t really matter. Iā€˜m not a big fan of wavetables but this thing makes me want to make patches.

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finally had a chance to sit down with the Jupiter-08 and I really like it. I’m not thinking about whether it’s ACB or ACM when I’m adjusting the panel. I’m definitely interacting with it in a way that I wouldn’t (or can’t) when running the Roland Cloud VST.

Also, having the Juno chorus at the touch of a button is just incredible. I could run it through my computer or MPC for a Juno chorus, but there’s no beating an effortless button press to throw a Juno chorus over a Jupiter patch.

I would never trade my SH-01A for an S-1– the way I can interact with sliders is fundamentally different from how I can interact with knobs. I do, however, get jealous over the built-in effects on the S-1, and I find myself wishing I could easily throw a delay on my SH-01A. Really, really glad I can easily throw on some effects onto the Jupiter-08.

I think I’m gonna be keeping it!

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