Mine too
Was happy the Tr-8s isn’t zencore cloud, but then realized you have to install cloud manager to install the tr-8s editor. FFS that’s stupid
At least it doesn’t require being logged in to manage presets like Novation aka Focusrite does. That’s just wrong, but a good excuse to master sysex
Like all cloud things eventually become, ‘business’ makes dev put that sh$t everywhere
Same thing with the 404 app so I’ve never used it. That said, users here had luck uninstalling Roland cloud after the app is installed and it’s all good. Hopefully the same for the editor.
Yeah, I ‘uninstalled’ it in that I deleted the app and removed the startup item for it. I haven’t bothered roaming around for all the app-litter various developers leave around on Macs (prefs, caches, volumes, volume groups, blah, blah, blah). I hate litter.
But yeah, it’s fine, and I’ll eventually purge all the crap it no doubt stuck around.
I expect it will be easier to purge than Adobe’s garbage.
Deleting the app will do the trick. The two “non app” things Roland Cloud runs is cloudmanagercore and the rcmservice, both of which are wholly contained within the Roland Cloud Manager.app bundle. So deleting the app gets rid of those, too.
The only litter left is any instruments/presets/etc downloaded from Roland Cloud, logging, and cache artifacts. All of which are in the standard ~/Library/Application Support/Roland Cloud.
It has its faults, and it’s crazy to require it to get stand-alone apps like for the 404 or 8s that require no authentication. But the Cloud app is, at least, a pretty conscientious macOS citizen.
Wooo! At last, a Space Echo!
If this is based off the RE-202 code, it‘s going to sound great.
checked a few things out after picking up my tb-303 freebie today - many plugins still giving cpu spikes on apple silicon 
get back to me Roland when you fix it
There’s a lengthy thread in gearspace , probably worth heading over there for much more discussion and support.
Yes, although the synths sound good, Roland Cloud is such a pain, there is always something not working, by the time you fix it, the inspiration is usually gone.
Reading through there just reconfirms that yes it’s an issue, they have been aware for years, and they haven’t been able to fix it - on top of all their other issues. Each time have looked at RC I have been scared away by the performance I have seen and general state of the product.
I was now hoping to be able to replace some of my romplers at least - but it seems impossible to trust RC
The worst sh*t about the Roland Cloud - and I am using it for many years now - is the stupid authorization they are doing in the background… and at some point in time you WILL have issues loading a project and it comes up with all these authorization RCM errors which drives me nuts.
Roland does not trust their users. That’s the point. (IMO)
I never had an issue with Arturia or Native Instruments or Ableton Live.
If I do not really need to, I use other plugins - which is a shame because they sound really good.
System 8 is great (I had the HW synth) and many of their synths as well.
I mean, if you didn’t use stuff because people were complaining about it on gearspace, there wouldn’t be much stuff left.
Try it yourself. If it’s not worth the hassle, uninstall it.
I have no doubt there are some configurations of hardware or software that will give people fits. But that’s true of everything. Only one way to find out if it will be true for your setup, and it’s pretty low investment.
Personally I use Zenology, an 808 or 909, a Juno or some Jupiter, Juno Chorus, and RE-201 in every project. And I frequently pull in a 101, 303, System-8, or some SRX module. Biggest problem I ever had was needing to restart the RCM service. And haven’t had to do that in over a year. YMMV.
I don’t know if you missed my initial comment - it was that I had tried the JV-1080 plugin that I wanted to use and that it gives me extreme CPU spikes even when idling. Looking at the GS thread just confirmed that this issue was shared be several users for many years and still not fixed.
My apologies, I did miss that. I saw that you “checked a few things out” after getting the 303-day offer. I didn’t realize that meant you had installed RC or that you were having trouble with the JV-1080.
For what it’s worth, on my M1 and M3 macs, 16 voices on the 1080 takes up ~20% of a single core (in line with Microwave and half of Diva, which seems right). I only see a jump when changing presets (probably due to decoding compressed samples). Is that what you mean or is there something more nefarious lurking?
Of all ironies, I got this this morning:
It’s a potential problem with any plugins that use these background auth services. I’ve had it with Softube, too, in the past. Thankfully it’s usually an easy fix.
Arturia Solina V2 also has CPU spikes on apple silicon still
Oh wow never seen that. I should have said “knock on wood” when I mentioned I had no issues 
I had similar issue with both Arturia and softube yesterday … softube had a few updates to the control app and then updates for each synth , it took ages.
I got a 3 month ultimate Roland subscription today … i might use it.
My experience with arturia has been that I never had issues 2-3 years ago.
Then around 1-1/2 years ago through now, all of a given set of bundles would just periodically aay they weren’t activated, sometimes randomly and every time after an update.
Now the control center thing just gets out of sync periodically (saying things need updated that were just updated the same day) and won’t open at all without an internet connection because its check-for-update logic blocks loading.
I don’t do those set of things over amd over and no longer use them in new projects and if it continues I’ll phase them out.
I got the 3 month roland cloud offer too recently, but reports of similar things makes me not want to try it.
Sad.
And I can’t even start with my experiences with NI. Ugh
I actually prefer ilok to the 8 separate license managers I now have, and honestly can’t believe I’m saying that.
I got a free three months of Roland Cloud Ultimate. I tried a few plugins, and they were all consistently ugly and not particularly inspiring. Also, the JV-1080 plugin had really obvious inaccuracies on some of the patches compared to the real hardware (I don’t think I’m going nuts - check out bank C patch 100, Vanishing. That ain’t right, the pitch shift is off and it sounds crap even to my Roland-noob ears!).
I am absolutely not a Roland aficionado but the free trial was enough to put me off of using Roland Cloud for life. Just an underwhelming experience all round, really, from the interface to the sound to having to use Roland Cloud in general. Roland have a huge array of respected legacy instruments, and it boggles my mind that the best recreations are typically from other devs.
On a more positive note - I recently picked up a used JV-1010 for less than the price of the JV-1080 plugin, and have been having plenty of fun with that. Works like a charm, can still be programmed using JV PatchEd, and after setting it up it’s as easy to drop into Cubase as it is to load up a VST instrument. Top experience all round!
I love my 1010. It’s my XP-60 plus a bank in a tiny little box. Sad those became a thing of the past after XV-2020.
You’re not crazy. The pitch shift of the 1080 and 5080 plugins is bugged for some reason. Has been since they launched so far as I know. It’s the main reason my 2080 is still in my rack.
The JV situation aside, I do think Roland is still the king of their own court. Their ACB emulations are the most accurate out there bar none. They have other problems (being too DSP hungry limiting polyphony, crappy design, janky UI) but when I compare Jupiters and Junos and 303s and such, the best Roland sound still comes from Roland.
But the runners-up still sound damn good, so if someone decides it’s not worth the jank for the little extra authenticity, I respect that. You can’t, at the end of the day, sell tracks on authenticity.
