Reason 13 is coming

I am responding to the claims of another user in a comedic manner. In other words, I’m joking.

I have no idea about, or have much issue with any of it had it ever happened (which I doubt, I even doubt your claims about the other companies).

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I think he’s trying to shoehorn the topic wherever possible in a way of vice signaling. Better not give him thread to derail the thread with those ridiculous comments. Is nonsensical and who cares.

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For this very reason I’ve suggested a focus mode.

Picture this: you’re on the rack , huge project, cables go everywhere, it’s a mess… you press a button combo on your qwerty keyboard and the currently selected device pops up to the front of the screen, not only that, but every device that is connected to it in one way or another, hovers around it (smaller, slightly dimmer), and their location is based on their connection to the selected device. Say if it’s an effect after it, it would be below, if it’s a cv connection it would be on one side, the mix channels and bus faders would be nearby… you get the idea. And if you click on whichever device around it, that becomes the focus and its own connections determine the devices hovering around it. And the farther away a device to the one in focus in terms of connection (more direct, less direct, the smaller and dimmer it looks around the focus one

The connected device could be on the other extreme of the rack, but note it’s right there close to your focus device and you can go back and forth easily between them and do any and all necessary changes right there.

Thoughts?

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Sounds nice, I’d +1 it is there was a feature request thingy for Reason :slight_smile:

But I’d be happy with something even simpler - for example, when I grab a cable to connect it somewhere else, the Rack should zoom out so that I can see more/all of it, and I can quickly navigate to the target. It kills me when I grab a cable and have to slowly scroll for 5-10s to get to the other end to connect it :slight_smile: Or when clicking one of “add device” widgets I hate that I have to choose it from multi-level menu - why can’t I just type the name or type of the device to get suggestions, and then insert it with [Enter]? I mean even Cubase and Logic managed to get that right… There’s multiple way to add a device now, but none of them is very convenient (although [Ctrl]/[Cmd]+[E] or +[I] works pretty good, now) :rage:

Also, I learned to use [K] a lot, which only shows the connections relevant to the device in focus.

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I realize there is some hostility in this thread, but I’ll aim to give my perspective anyways. I live in Stockholm and I know a lot of people who have worked with Reason Studios over the years. Seeing how they don’t give away licenses to people who actively beta test for them, but do so to club people with clout and the right attributes, hasn’t sat right with me.

I have friends who are on all parts of this spectrum and I don’t have issue with either of them. It’s the obvious pinkwashing I can’t stand, and it would sit much better if they treated their software, user base & beta testers better. But for the last few of my years using Reason this got topped with subscription and mediocre synths covered with extremely wet patches.

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That has nothing to do with woke stuff, though.

And I’d wager it’s the same for every developer - by participating in beta you’re getting a "privilege’ of shaping the future of the product you use and probably care about. No one forces you to beta test stuff.

And influencers get the stuff for free, because …well, they’re the influence on other people, so people buy what they use (or even just show they “use”). It’s like paying for ads. You and I might not like it, but it works.

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Thanks for a respectful reply. I agree about the ad stuff, but I disagree about the application here. It’s more them trying to shoehorn their product into a group of people, more based on intersectionality than just amount of followers. And it’s their right of course, just as it’s my right to have an opinion about how that feels when they neglect their user base and loyal users. It’s obvious to me, especially looking at their events here, that they hopped on a bit too much on the woke train and will likely cut back on it later. But only time will tell :slight_smile:

Ok, maybe this is visible in Stockholm, but for sure it doesn’t come through like that on their webpage or YT.

Unlike e.g. Ableton that puts transgender people or disproportionate number of women in their videos. To be sure - there’s nothing wrong, they don’t make a thing out of it and it’s totally their right to do so, just something I noticed compared to other DAW developers.

Agreed. And to me personally, Ableton does it better, because they keep their user base happy first and foremost.

Yes, but they’ve 500+ employees and millions of users paying for their industry-leading DAW and thousands buying their brilliant hardware, i.e. Push & Move.

Of course, in the usual chicken-and-egg fashion they’re in that place because of good decisions they made earlier, especially this one:

Inside Ableton, the Music Software Company Everyone Wants to Buy - Hosts & Applications (Sequencers, DAWs, Audio Editors, etc.) Forum - KVR Audio

which lead to this:


Meanwhile in Reason world Verdane invests in Propellerhead to strengthen expansion and mobile focus - Verdane

which put an end to this company:

:man_facepalming:

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Does any company give licenses to their beta testers for free?

Ableton, Bitwig or Steinberg do not. I doubt anyone does.

But it’s nice to want things.

:man_shrugging:

That’s because behind the scenes a lot of parameter values are still limited to 127 steps for MIDI mapping purposes.

Yes, I’m aware of the technical reasons why it’s like that. I don’t care. I actually appreciate plugins & REs that use discrete values instead of continuous range. It makes for a much faster workflow, at least for me :slight_smile:

I have received free licenses (and a physical copy) of Audition from Adobe, although they asked me not to talk about this on their beta forum (it was >10 years ago and there was no NDA so I am not breaking any confidence here). I think all beta testers should get something like this, but would add that it was an invite only beta rather than the open type. I guess from their perspective there is some difference in the quality of feedback submissions.

I put in a lot of testing hours, but I was pleasantly surprised by the gift because I said a lot of mean things about Adobe devs. You might remember Audition used to be called CoolEdit and the company/code were bought by Adobe. They wanted to fill out their audio capabilities to match the video editing power of Premiere, but they dumped a lot of valuable functionality (eg MIDI sequencing, scripting) while being unable to understand for months on end why timecode conversion mattered a lot if they wanted customers in the film/video industry, and why it was a lot more complicated than they thought. The Adobe engineers were expert at user interface stuff to match the Adobe look and feel, but had exactly zero understanding of audio DSP or editing workflows. To this day there are stupid unfinished features in there because they understood how to put things on the screen but not how editors wanted to use them once they were there.

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Finally something we can all agree on. If one doesn’t like the vibes of a music tech company the optimal solution is to not use their products.

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