just wondering if anyone else is experiencing or rather hearing envelope clicks in some of the Roland se-02 patches?
it seems if a couple of notes are sequenced quickly together there is a click at the start of the second note … on the unit i am working with atm.
kind of difficult to explain how or why there is a click… but there is a click.
not super obvious but neither is it inaudible.
does this kind of thing happen often with analogue synth gear?
the envelope shaper on the se-02 is in fact a digital set of readings that are interpolated between, the readings were taken from the original early Moog synth.
it’s an amazing sounding bass synth, love it… but the clicks …
Just a guess.
The amp envelope of the first note probably hasn’t finished its cycle when the second note is triggered.
The clicking is maybe coming from the phase of the second notes waveform not crossing zero when triggered, and clashing with the first note, also not crossing zero when triggered.
This offset from zero crossing of the waveform could possibly cause the click.
The way around is to obviously shorten the notes amp envelope so the waveform has reached zero before the second note triggers.
Another option, if possible on the synth is to enable phase reset of the waveform when triggered.
Another option and annoying is sometimes if there isn’t some attack and or release in the amp envelope the notes can click. A little of one or the other or both can alleviate the click.
cheers … yes it’s a funny creature, the se02.
3 voltage controlled oscillators but the envelope is a digital scenario of some kind, not that i’m complaining about the tonality of the instrument. sounds way cool.
so if there is a zero crossing issue that would be to do with the digital envelope i guess.
“sync” does not behave as usually expected on the se02, i read somewhere, something to do with not meaning what it usually means.
shortening the sound’s envelope sometimes really changes the sound and sometimes does not alleviate the click.
not that there is much of a click most of the time, and in fact on some patches there is no click.
sometimes reducing the length of the note hold value on the OT sequencer does help to alleviate any potential click (as that obviously adjusts how long the adsr envelope of the se02 is responding to the adjusted length of the incoming note midi).
Mmm…my experience is digital envelopes tend to alleviate the problem more than analog, but who knows.
Don’t own a se-02
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yes i was wondering if the click was due to the digital part of the synthesis pathway although if analogue machines have the possibility to make clicks then maybe it is something else.
my only experience with analogue synths before this se02 is the juno 106.
and mBase11 which is a different kettle of fish altogether.
Is it a particular factory patch? I can try and test it later. I’m sequencing from a Monomachine mostly, and I find I need to watch the note lengths a bit but I don’t remember running into much clicking, at least not yet.
Might be worth also trying to just back the filter and/or amp Attack settings off a tiny fraction, if you have one or both turned all the way to the left?
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different patches … not sure right now. it isn’t too obvious though.