Push 3 Users Thread

Update:

Ableton support closed my request yesterday without even attempting to address it. I submitted another ticket about this. This is the second time they have closed one of my support tickets without even bothering to comment.

Man I’ve preordered June 8th and it still says 6-8 weeks time.

I ordered Monday and it delivered today… (in the US / Standalone).

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I still need to bring this up in the beta thread… I haven’t had an issue with it, but I’ll try to break it today and hopefully record, then post.

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I’m in NL but I am seriously thinking something went wrong. a well.

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Most likely they know about this and have several of the same bug reports and try to keep their system tidy but they could let you know.

Yeah, I was wondering if this might be the case, but any kind of response - even a simple “yes, we are aware” would be nice.

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I wonder if this could be something where they’ve connected their support ticketing system to their development ticketing system, and an SDET marks a ticket in the latter (Jira, or something like it) as “closed: duplicate” and it automatically closes the support ticket… but it doesn’t carry over the “duplicate” reason.

Whatever the case, it’s a bad customer experience having your support ticket closed with no explanation, so hopefully they fix it soon.

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New Push 3 Beta is up on Centercode (public beta).

Its a short list for Push 3, but since its one that could be frustrating, I thought I’d add it here:

Push 3 - Bugfixes:

  • Updated the Push 3 software to version 1.2.1 (includes XMOS 1.0.70 firmware). This fixed a bug that caused ADAT clock synchronization to be intermittently lost when changing sample rates.
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I was also able to use this method to fix my levels. Thank you!

If anyone needs help doing the same, open the application “Audio Midi Setup” on Mac OS.

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Darn, MIDI clock out is not great. Syntakt was nominally sent 120 bpm, and I got everything from 119 to 123.5 :-/

I actually thought I had an LFO modulating delay time…

This is what I was worried for… maybe something like a midronome could help, since Ableton can also send clock via cv (pedal connectors).

But still, if clock isn’t tight, I’m afraid midi notes are also not tight. So using Push 3 as a sequencer for your hardware is also not perfect if you care about tight timing (which I do)

Thoroughly my concerns too…

I’ve been eyeing the P3S as a possible replacement for my Hapax and my Novation SL MK3. Thinking that I am no beg keyboard player - MPE Pads would be cool instead - and the midi sequencing of a fair bit of outboard gear could all be pulled down into one device.

Smaller footprint and a more central way of working.

I’ve got a ERM Multiclock which could keep my gear with sequencers pretty tight but . . .

I am concerned that the midi patterns being sent from the P3S would not be tight enough and I would get frustrated by that.

I have been imagining my setup having the P3S as the central sequencer and the desk space becoming less crammed, and have felt a sense of excitement by the potential . . .

I think the lack of tight midi clock and stability is going to encourage me to not go down that route. It’s a shame.

I’m in the same position. Think I’ll stick with my Hapax as well.

By the way, does somebody know of a M4L granular effect?

That’s one thing I’d love to get on the standalone. The file loading interface for M4L devices hawn’t been implemented, so Granulator II is out of the question for standalone.

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I am hoping for a native granular effect from Ableton as it seems like a gap in an otherwise fairly complete set of native effects.

That being said, I am not a fan of the granular delay, so maybe I would not care for Ableton’s non-existent granular effect either. :laughing:

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The MIDI sync issues with Elektron devices seem to be a result of MPE data choking up Elektron sequencers. I can get stuff to seriously hang by just buttonmashing.

So, to get better sync you’d need a way to disable MPE output per channel in the Push. Is there a way? Would a M4L device that did this be difficult to make?

EDIT: Found one and it works! With this enabled, I can mash MPE messages all I want and the Octa or Syntakt won’t choke:

http://maxforlive.com/library/device/4365/midi-filter-select?fbclid=IwAR2mo3XhrVSwMBTTIccajF8F22OKRSAnHpSbsTga88tRFEZiCAlwY0jsiCE

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Nice find! To clarify, did this improve the MIDI clock sync to your Elektron boxes that you described above? Or just make it better when you’re sending out notes to those devices?

It sounds like this would be helpful for filtering note data being sent to external boxes, but my understanding is MIDI clock itself is sent via the global MIDI out, and as such isn’t dependent on anything that would filter MIDI at the channel level.

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It improved clock sync.

The problem with Elektron devices is that they get easily choked up when being sent a lot of MIDI data. Even if you turn off MIDI CC receive on Elektron boxes, they still are affected by it – sending a lot of MIDI to an Elektron will slow it down to a crawl.

So this M4L device fixes that.

Are you using this in standalone or with a computer?

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