That seems to be the reason.
Left it some time unused and unconnected in my cupboard due to other things to do…
However, now I’m aware of this requirement.
Thanks.
Has there been any talk or rumors about an upgraded ”upgrade kit”?
Since the CPU is 5-6 years old, intel dropped the NUC platform and Move is using ARM architecture it feels like it’s time 
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Yes I deliberately chose the controller version on the hope/intuition this would play out…or the kits would get blown out for £99
From my own point of view I don’t really see that there’s a pressing need for a processor update other than because it can be done and that’s how tech update cycles tend to work - have never had any issues on that front. But I’m also not really a tech/gadget guy so don’t have strong opinions on processors etc., so long as they work for what I want to do.
If they did it would I get it? Probably. But like I say I’m not feeling like there’s any urgency to this personally. Definitely not something I’ve seen mentioned anywhere either way.
Looking forward to the next beta round, hopefully this will be the point where midi tools get fully opened up in Push. I really like what they’ve done with rhythm generator, but also there are a lot of controls that aren’t accessible - feel like it’s time for this one.
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I agree w/@benway – I don’t really see a performance need for an upgrade. Updates and new features in parity w/Live have been rapidly forthcoming.
The limitations on the Push 3 don’t feel CPU related but rather more on the integration of features into the Push UI/UX:
- Asus partnered w/Intel to take control of the NUC platform back in 2023
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I’ve been deep-diving into standalone-compatible Max for Live stuff recently, and I have to say, things are really hotting up.
First of all, I’ve been amazed by Sidebrain’s Ableton Live Push Trigger FX. For $24 you get 64 punch-in (momentary trigger) effects similar to Teenage Engineering hardware, as well as a bank of eight really nice multi-fx filters mapped to macros.
Momentary Pad Effects:
The effects are roughly divided in four groups of 16 - beat mashing, modulation, distortion and reverb/delay. Pressing multiple pads results in a blend of those effects. Really fun to destroy breakbeats but can be used more subtly.
Momentary Multi-Filters
Eight macro knobs with really cool momentary control - you let go of them and they revert to zero. Each one is a mixture of multiple effects such as filters, reverbs, delays and beat repeats, and are cleverly mapped so different things happen as you turn them. It’s also designed to be ‘locked’ to the Push so you can use the effects and the filters at the same time.
Another thing that’s blown me away is Tessella by Mayer Devices. It basically divides a circular sequence grid based on factors including tempo rate, bars, length, ratchets and triplets and density. At its most basic level Tessella generates surprisingly realistic hand-percussion sequences, like someone playing a hang drum or darbuka, but it’s useful for a much wider range of applications.
Tessella spits out some awesome patterns when driven by an arpeggiator or another sequencer such as Sting 2. I find it useful to control the output with Random, Pitch and Velocity MIDI effects. I also usually add a ‘probability/chance’ control afterwards (I like MIDI Note Chance.adv) which allows for further control over generated sequences.
I’ve had great results using Tessella to sequence hardware (it does a great job playing ‘realistic-sounding’ percussion for the Nord Drum 2) as well as software such as NI’s Battery to generative unique drum patterns. Great to drive random patches on Massive and Pigments as well.
Lastly, I am yet to try it, but Monomono (of Mono One and Maya fame) released Niseko, their M4L additive synth. It sounds fantastic and I can’t wait to try it out.
The above are all standalone compatible (I haven’t tried Tessella standalone yet mind you) which vastly expands the Push 3’s credibility as a monster groovebox. 
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Tesella’s really good, only caveat is that I kind wish it had a little more by way of control for pitch than arpeggiator modes, but I get around that using various pitch sequencers that can be advanced by incoming midi notes. Haven’t thought to do it the other way around, definitely one to try out. Have to admit that I’m not entirely sure how it works but usually just twisting knobs gets something interesting - can’t ask for much more than that.
Also getting mileage out of ijo Augur in the past couple of weeks - similar deal but with a Turing machine style locking system.
Although I think that max world has offered more than enough to set up Push as a killer custom performance patch / “groovebox” more or less since launch, for me rhythm generator layout in drum racks has been the really big step forward for improvising - I bought a Torso T1 to cover this shortly before this layout was added and now I find that a lot of the time I’m happy enough to just work with the generator. Still love the T1 though.
For me it’s the sequencing power that really makes Push the undisputed king, no other device comes remotely close imho. Bringing in control over midi tools in clips would just take this a step further.
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From my POV I don’t have a standalone model, so it’s more that paying full price for an 5 year old CPU rather than if I need more processing power that feels like I get ripped off 
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You’re buying an instrument not a laptop! If you adopt that approach, you’re pretty much guaranteed for dissapointment as instrument builders almost never use the latest and greatest CPUs.
I’d guess when we do see an update, the new CPU will again be 2-3 years behind the current gen you’d find in a laptop.
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Same. It’s impossible for me to leave it plugged in due to size and space, so mine is always dead whenever I go to use it. That and the never ending hot swap bug they can;t seem to fix have me wishing I was able to sell it for a long time now 
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yeah standalone m4l can basically do it all nowadays 
Yeah I feel the same, though I like to put Sting 2 before it, my MIDI effects of choice after it, then Group them all and macro my favourite controls. You can then get endless variety and have a surprising amount of control. Save the group for future fun-times.
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