Are the Push 2 pads more akin to mpc ones.
Interesting to hear! Yeah I saw that Roland introduced delay comp in a FW update, but given that the TR1000 is the one that has delay (50ms I believe), the Push has to slow down for it (not the other way around). As a result, when you played with them together, I assume you couldn’t play the Push’s pads live due to the lag?
Yes, but I would say the MPC ones are a bit softer. If you’ve used a Move then the Push 2 pads are VERY similar to that.
I’ve not tested midi tracks, only audio tracks/loops.
Do you just record audio to the push and quantise it then?
I’ve been testing live recording loops out for transitioning between patterns on the TR-1000. Works fine.
For you Push 3 Standalone users. How is the class compliant audio working? Is it reliable? Can you Monitor 5+ stereo channels without pops/crackles/hiccups?
Is the Push 3 as finicky with audio devices as the MPCs, or does Ableton seem to know better how the feature is supposed to be implemented?
No problems at all
Although I sold my interface and bought an adat expander and just use the 4 channels out (2 master out, and 2 headphone out) of push and 2 channels in plus 8in/8out adat expander.
This gives me 12out/10in without an interface.
May I ask which ADAT Expander you have?
Sounds promising. Anyone else have a verdict?
I’m using an RME Fireface UC for adat in and out with the push 3, I’m using at 96 so only 4 in and out, but works great, have set up totalmix for direct monitoring from the mixer through the the rme, and then can route push back into the mixer, etc… works well for me
I went into the cheapest good route, which is ADA8200 from Behringer, can’t say a bad word about it ![]()
My interest in the Push 3 for Standalone use grows more and more…
If it just wasn’t for the ridiculous price tag… Well I’ll need to think deep on this one…
I got the push 3 when it launched in 2023 essentially to replace the octatrack, couldn’t afford to keep both so was a big investment for me. To be honest, I found using the push SA quite cumbersome for a long time in terms of just ease of sampling, but committed to using SA with external gear only for a period, and it clicked in a big way eventually, very happy with it now
They Sell for really fair prices right now second hand. I sold my P3SA for around 1250€.
Did you figure out an approach for replicating the live sampling ability of the Octatrack in P3SA- trying to figure out the same myself at the moment?
Not quite the same, but my approach now is basically just setting up an audio track and setting fixed length recording of whatever, 4,8, 16 bars, depending on the tune, and then just recording blocks from whatever is coming out of the mixer, treating each scene in the push audio track as an OT buffer I suppose, just incrementing and building up a tune like that
Nothing complicated at all, but just feels bit closer to how I was using the OT
Yeah true, but that is only with Ableton Intro right? I would need Standard at least since I need more Audio/Midi tracks and scenes from the get go… So that is like 285€ on top of that price?
I haven’t bought that expensive musical gear so far in my musical gear journey, so I have a hard time justifying such a high price for gear
And being an FL Studio user the rare occasions I use a DAW, buying a DAW for 285€ just to be able to utilize my Standalone device fully seems a bit backwards…
Yeah, I always assume people already own Ableton when buying it.
Something to think about, which may ease the pain of buying Ableton, is that they offer very fair rent-to-own and financing for both hardware and software.