I pre-ordered mine but for future updates this would be cool:
Would be nice to see the following as params for the samples. And maybe they are in but there is no manual posted yet so I cant tell.
Attack
decay
Sustain
Release
4 band Parametric EQ (highpass filter would also be good enough)
How are you going to have a substantial amount of control when layering a sample with the synth engine without the above as parameters?
Hopefully they can improve on this later but by the looks of it(videos) there is just a start and stop point as params and maybe a couple more like tune, bitcrush etc.
Also an offset would be nice too to deal with phasing.
I guess we can use a separate voice to do all this but would be nice not to have to do this.
its not absurd in the least. Its just for the sample engine portion of the voice architecture which is digital. Even just a simple digital filter there before the DA stage where it then gets summed with the analog engine would be fine.
Like this:
its not absurd in the least. Its just for the sample engine portion of the voice architecture which is digital. Even just a simple digital filter there before the DA stage where it then gets summed with the analog engine would be fine.
Like this:
I guess I wouldn’t mind an EQ for the sample portion. Maybe we could get it in an update if enough people asked for it. As it is, without an EQ, I still find the RYTM very appealing. Samples can be post processed. If an EQ for the sample portion is ever implemented, it’d be neat to be able to modulate it.
Just see the sample thing as an added bonus. After all it’s an analog device and that’s where all the magic is. Compare this with the dreadful Tempest which only had fixed samples with almost no control .
Nope, I’m very content with the current features .
From what I have heard in the YouTube videos where samples are layered it sounds really good. Now I’m thinking that was because the samples were pre-edited to fit perfectly. Will there even be a volume for the layered sample?
Sorry but I dont buy that. I dont like hey and we tacked this on as a bonus. I like to see every feature be as powerful as the platform will allow. They tout it as a sample layering well give us proper controls to effectively layer then. I think that since that engine is digital there is probably room for added params there but I could be mistaken.
Stop EQing, start making stuff. Make the end results fit. EQing the individual layers is not even needed most of the time, only when dealing with sounds that have a lot of low end. Just make the end result fit, and start off with good samples to begin with. The AR does not have an EQ and probably will never have that, so you’ll have to deal with it or cancel the order.
Your advice would be great for someone that has no clue what they are doing with engineering /sound design and doesn’t give a crap to how the end result will be. Again the EQ/filter controls I am suggesting would just be for the sample engine portion of the voice architecture. Refer to the diagram I posted previously. Any seasoned engineer/sound design enthusiast could tell you that eq/filter/envelope is essential part of layering sounds. We will be forced to pre-process our samples for now in the DAW before loading them in the AR but all i’m saying is it would be great to have a bit more control in the unit itself.
Your advice would be great for someone that has no clue what they are doing with engineering /sound design and doesn’t give a crap to how the end result will be. Again the EQ/filter controls I am suggesting would just be for the sample engine portion of the voice architecture. Refer to the diagram I posted previously. Any seasoned engineer/sound design enthusiast could tell you that eq/filter/envelope is essential part of layering sounds. We will be forced to pre-process our samples for now in the DAW before loading them in the AR but all i’m saying is it would be great to have a bit more control in the unit itself.[/quote]
Yeah, but to your point; it’d be nice to have a seperate compressor & reverb/delay per voice, and two filters instead of one.
I think everyone understands there’s a feature vs price thing going on. There will be updates, and the things Elektron decide to update are limited by hardware, and effected by DSP limitations.
The buyer’s decision is ultimately based upon these compromises that all synth manufacturers have to make.
Your advice would be great for someone that has no clue what they are doing with engineering /sound design and doesn’t give a crap to how the end result will be. Again the EQ/filter controls I am suggesting would just be for the sample engine portion of the voice architecture. Refer to the diagram I posted previously. Any seasoned engineer/sound design enthusiast could tell you that eq/filter/envelope is essential part of layering sounds. We will be forced to pre-process our samples for now in the DAW before loading them in the AR but all i’m saying is it would be great to have a bit more control in the unit itself.[/quote]
Yeah, but to your point; it’d be nice to have a seperate compressor & reverb/delay per voice, and two filters instead of one.
I think everyone understands there’s a feature vs price thing going on. There will be updates, and the things Elektron decide to update are limited by hardware, and effected by DSP limitations.
The buyer’s decision is ultimately based upon these compromises that all synth manufacturers have to make.[/quote]
Again the portion of the engine I am referring to is digital not analog so adding parameters to that section of the architecture might be perfectly doable with just some firmware updates. Comparing it to adding compressors and more filters for each voice is not a really direct comparison because that would be hardware redesigns.
Guys we got features added to the A4 after it came out did we not? Stop being such fan boys and try to realize this would be a good thing to add. A very good thing. Even if they never add this I will still own and probably love my AR but it would be great for the future updates.
Your advice would be great for someone that has no clue what they are doing with engineering /sound design and doesn’t give a crap to how the end result will be. Again the EQ/filter controls I am suggesting would just be for the sample engine portion of the voice architecture. Refer to the diagram I posted previously. Any seasoned engineer/sound design enthusiast could tell you that eq/filter/envelope is essential part of layering sounds. We will be forced to pre-process our samples for now in the DAW before loading them in the AR but all i’m saying is it would be great to have a bit more control in the unit itself.[/quote]
Yeah, but to your point; it’d be nice to have a seperate compressor & reverb/delay per voice, and two filters instead of one.
I think everyone understands there’s a feature vs price thing going on. There will be updates, and the things Elektron decide to update are limited by hardware, and effected by DSP limitations.
The buyer’s decision is ultimately based upon these compromises that all synth manufacturers have to make.[/quote]
Again the portion of the engine I am referring to is digital not analog so adding parameters to that section of the architecture might be perfectly doable with just some firmware updates. Comparing it to adding compressors and more filters for each voice is not a really direct comparison because that would be hardware redesigns.
Guys we got features added to the A4 after it came out did we not? Stop being such fan boys and try to realize this would be a good thing to add. A very good thing. Even if they never add this I will still own and probably love my AR but it would be great for the future updates.[/quote]
Guess what I’d rather see than a simple EQ for the sample section? I’d love to see some digital machines introduced, like physically modelled drum synths ala Machinedrum. Imagine if there were some digital synth machines that could be loaded up in the sample section and sent through all the analog processing!
I must admit, I am surprised there is not at least basic digital eq, filter and envelope control over the sample layer. It would make the sample layering so much more powerful and effective.
At the very least, it would be nice if the sample layer can run in parallel to the analog processing. That way you can pre-process your samples, and run them in parallel to the analog processing of the analog voice. In otherwords, It would be nice to have a sample with a different envelop curve, etc. from it’s respective analog voice.