by now it’s more than clear that a normal PolyEND lifecycle is 2 years. Seq, Preset, Poly 2… even Medusa. none was in production beyond 3 years, right? similarly it seems none emerged on the market bug-free or went legacy in a fixed state.
so it’s no coincidence and no surprises now
the mystery is who’s the market. how they manage to be profitable enough to pull the trick again and again.
I think they sell a decent amount of units at pretty solid(high) prices, I mean, $799 for the original play was not cheap, especially considering the price of the new and improved Play + (coming in at a cool… $799).
Profit allows you to continue, and I think Polyend profits.
That or someone’s dad is loaded . Could be both.
But it is not because they’ve created long-standing products and provided long-lasting support for them, that’s not even an arguable point, it’s the truth.
Some companies do that with a product, but rarely with every product.
og tracker example
The Tracker OG (circa 2021) went through multiple hardware issues/reworks to a final lower-quality product than it began, updates came along to make the device better (that’s good!) and it’s still $300 on my local craigslist, listing has been up for over a month. I can’t imagine Polyend selling many of these new at this point (and it’s only two years old, look at TE or Elektron pushing super old hardware b/c it’s well supported) so, with no retail sales, they aren’t going to be able to continue to support it, both producing the hardware but also adding features, producing updates.
Personally, I think their pricing strategy is too Elektron without having the Elektron legacy (25yrs) and Elektron support system to back it up.
There is a very big difference between criticism and blatantly offending someone or trying to paint them in a bad light, attack their character and other toxic behavior.
Doubting his voiced transparency shows a lack of trust more than anything else really (which is fine of course) and is as or more unsubstantiated as trusting what he says on this subject.
This was not about general criticism on his video content, his way of presenting or reviewing. This was about people being very toxic towards him and synthfluensers in general. Making this about criticism in general is missing the point entirely.
Last thing I have to say about that though. Back on topic
At the end of the day, regardless of whether or not he’s being honest about his relationship with Polyend, it’s clear that he’s incapable of having an objective view of their products and actions as a company.
It’s just music gear.
To conclude:
- Polyend is questionable as a company
- B. Jordan genuinly likes them
- People question Jordan (for good reason)
- Jordan quits reviewing gear because of it.
Rotten apple here is Polyend. No one else.
Which is honestly completely fine for what he does. If we desire objective reviews we need to look at places where multiple editors get a say on a product. Benn is not that, just an enthusiastic user.
Best way is to vote with your wallets.
Somewhere on the other side of the internet, a crochet forum is getting absurdly overheated about yarn manufacturers.
The contrast between Polyend and Synthstrom’s approach to product development and customer service would make for a good case study.
He’s not getting paid by them though, nor is their any idea that the promotion he is doing is corrupt or dishonest.
" You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Can’t believe we’re shill talking about this!
Yeah, massively off topic thread. I feel sorry for the mods when they inevitable have to clean this up.
These off topic posts need to stop, and I mean it!
Does anyone want a peanut?!
See, this is the problem with everything, someone is always…wait, did you say you have peanuts?
It’s kind of shilly now.
Yup, I agree of course. But how do they manage to keep sales high for every new offering after leaving behind (yet and yet another) half-baked previous ones? That’s what puzzles me.
One possible answer is that it’s somehow built into their (cynical) strategy we’ve been witnessing. Like, both hastened development and short life-spans are part of it. This allows them to save costs, of support also. The Play+ story also allows us to suspect those products have really high margins. So they chose to play on novelty, bombarding the market every two years with a new thing which they know won’t sell that well after the initial period. So when the sales stumble, they abandon it, but the new one is ‘ready’ by then, and they push this new product aggressively.
That’s their ‘clever’ way to spread the ever-limited resources. It’s precarious model too, as they would probably be out of cash for further development if any two consecutive products fail to bring enough revenue. This might have happened already with the Play or what preceded it, hence the weird move with pricing of both P/P+ and the trade-in program (no doubt the used ones would be sold, doubt they’d receive ‘refurb’ designation and price), they push it, milking the market.
I think it’s more or less on-topic still, as Benn’s story is a part of Play+ product strategy and its reception.
But anyway, I’ll be short: you’re twisting it, where was the attack on Benn’s character? The toxic behaviour was proven, wasn’t it (both in past, and now with targeting his fanbase at one of our colleagues here)? Shill is not an offence, as the dictionary proves (you chose not to comment on that though). ‘The bad light’ is a weird way to whitewash his clear conflict of interests — it’s not because I doubt his ‘voiced transparency’, but because he’s not being transparent on neither the product, nor the brand’s other offerings — one can be enthusiastic but fully opened and critical. Synthfluencing is a business, not ‘enthusiastic expression’, comeon.
but 'nuff on that, take care
I watched most of his video and 90% was not germane to the current controversy he created for himself.
Probably because people like their gear. I’ll probably get the Play + eventually.
sure some do
but I figure the fanbase is rather small, otherwise products lasted longer. demand = supply.