You buy (if you buy) products when they come out for a price you think at that time is worth it.
So, now you could get a better version and even have a deal where polyend offers you an exchange for your “old” box - remember - that you found good enough, and thats now a bad thing?
Do you hate your car company because it has every year a facelift of their models?
Depends your life on it, or what the fog is the problem?
This is very strange.
Benefit of a doubt maybe the sarcasm was lost in translation.
Yeah, so Play sold for $799 USD. The new Play+ also sells for $799 USD. And it costs $399 USD to upgrade??? How does that make any sense?
AND customer is responsible for shipping charges!!!
Music gear doesn’t have as much of a history of being a disposable electronics platform like laptops or cellphones. There have been plenty of synth companies that have set a precedent that you buy a device and it’s updated for the long term.
Yeah, you should buy a piece of gear for what it is now and not what it could be but I think a lot of bugs and workflow kinks stick around in Polyends products that take years if they ever even get fixed. And they have shown when they get bored they will drop the product prematurely without fixing all its issues.
It’s not just the fact that they released a new version within a year of the previous, it’s the fact that they don’t seem to follow through with a logical update cycle to at least fix problems, let alone add features.
Why buy Polyend when you can get a Digitakt or Octatrack which have been updated 6 and 10 years after their release? Or a Deluge which has been getting support for 6, almost 7 years?
It’s just cheapening their product line in a space that isn’t as well known for e-waste.
I never found the Polyend Play good enough. I hated it.
Then why do you care? I don’t understand.
Hyper Polyend Play EX Plus Alpha II Turbo: Champion Edition
I’m counting down to certain ‘YouTube personalities’ uploading videos mocking those annoyed by this whilst sat in front of a wall of their complementary hardware.
To bring an opposing opinion, to me as a potential customer who does not have the play this +version is great news.
The midi PPQN is still a Joke too!
Because I paid money for half-baked gear (my mistake) and didn’t expect a new Play+ less than a year later. It should be a free upgrade. Perhaps with this upgrade I would no longer hate it. I learned my lesson though. Never buy a first-gen product from them again. Lesson learned and I’ll accept that. I’m still salty lol.
Yeah I didn’t care for the hardware either. It had a weird workflow and the sample quantity limitation is still here- no SD card streaming in 2023? The Deluge has had that since 2018. That will never come probably. Way too much of a limitation in my opinion and the process of adding samples to the RAM was super tedious and anti-creative.
Yeah, thats bad then.
Is it half-baked because it has bugs? Is it broken because of that bugs?
Or is it just the new features?
Sorry to put salt into wounds 
Consumers like you protecting companies like this are fighting against their own interests.
This is not a facelift.
We are in a pretty niche market, and it is expected and normal for there to be a MUCH longer product cycle.
A4 Mk1 > A4 Mk2 is 5 years (And if anything this was a facelift, the features are more or less the same right?)
MPC One > MPC One+ is 3 years (and the original MPC can still use all the features that the refresh has, as far as I know, they just added RAM).
Digitakt is still running strong from 2017
Novation Circuit > Circuit Tracks is 5-6 years
Roland SP404???
Can you please name me one product in this market which has had such a little time between versions?
It’s their decision and freedom to conduct business like this, it’s my freedom to tell them to go F themselves.
Do you honestly want your music gear to enter into the same product cycle tempo we have for phones, laptops etc? I know I don’t and I think being vocal about it is not a sin.
I’m usually someone who sticks up for Polyend because I like their products, but I can imagine this really stings people who own the OG Play.
I almost got the Play at launch and then held off because it seemed like a great sequencer with a really underpowered audio engine. Looks like that was clearly the case given the insanely short refresh cycle.
On the surface it looks like the product I was hoping they would make in the first place, but I’d be very suspicious about buying one.
It still doesn’t sample
They added Bluetooth and Wifi. They have also made it very clear that this MPC One + is for new users and existing MPC users do not have to “upgrade” for new features.
Gutted. I bought the original about 2 months ago, didn’t get on with it so I’ve been trying to sell it.
No chance of moving it now.
It’s a shame as it seems like it has the potential to be a good device with a bit of work but I’m not interested in buying anything else from Polyend after this.
This is more or less how I feel. They’ve proved multiple times now that they won’t adequately support any of their products - as soon as new ones release, focus shifts because they seemingly aren’t a big enough company to properly support their own lineup. I’m not here to dump all over them - I have no horse in the race, I don’t own any of their gear. But it bums me out that they have the potential to put out incredible products - the ideas are certainly there - and they squander it.
More on-topic: after watching the Loopop video, the synths are cool but nothing mindblowing. I’d likely end up sequencing my other gear with it anyway. No SD card streaming is a bummer but also not something I’m particularly concerned with. I’m not thrilled that some of the new secondary/ tertiary functions (such as the piano roll) aren’t labelled on the panel. That’s relatively minor, but my memory is shite so any prompts that help me learn are welcome.
Polyend Play is without doubt, one of the most overhyped and instant DOA devices in recent Music history imo.
They literally abandoned their device in what? less than a year? 
But the market has been very negative towards it since launch and for good reason.
1 synth patch per project… WHAAAT!?
That’s an insane limitation!
No perform mode for synth sounds… WHAAAT!?
what in the name of everything holy are they doing!?
I was actually intrigued, the synth engines sounded good, but those limitations are crazy imo!!