Play from current page?

I’ve done some searching but couldn’t find anything. I read the manual a couple months ago. I don’t recall elektron mentioning anything about this.

Does anyone know if it’s possible to “play from current page” ?

Sometimes when I’m making longer beats (e.g. 64 steps) and I’m editing the last page I would like to just begin play from the page I’m on, so I don’t have to wait for the sequence to advance to where I am for me to hear what it sounds like. Thanks in advance for any help.

Unfortunately not possible. I agree, it’s a drag.

maybe something they could add in an update? this is my first piece of electron gear so I’m not familiar with how/if they handle future updates.

maybe it could be something accessible from the globals or scale menus.

Maybe not of interest to you, as so many here seem to work without a DAW, but I get around this on my MD by enabling sync in ableton and then placing the cursor on the beginning of bar 3. Ableton sends song position data, so the MD starts on the 49th step. I assume it’d work the same way with the AR…

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You could use the arranger and just play the last 16 steps of a pattern as it repeats. I usually just wait…

Forgive my ignorance but what is meant by the arranger? How would I use this to repeat the last page? You aren’t referring to the sequencer are you? (at least I don’t see how that would be possible with the sequencer).

Also, do the elektron guy usually add user requested features in future OS updates? Do you even have OS updates if there aren’t bugs?

I would love to see this feature. Drives me completely bonkers waiting for the page to come round again. Seems like an essential feature in a sequencer. Imagine your DAW if you couldn’t cycle over half a bar to edit stuff.

I don’t have an AR, but on the OT and a4 what I tend to do is copy the page I want to work on to a blank 16 step pattern and copy it back when I’m happy with it.

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Wow, that’s surprising that AR’s song mode doesn’t have the option of offsetting patterns. I think that was pretty standard for any of the elektron machines.

That’s probably easier than my suggestions :+1:

… does the RYTM let you do that without stopping?[/quote]
you can do it on the A4, essentially the same sequencer, only tricky bit is when you paste and shorten
any Direct Change mode except green light direct
copy pattern in step mode, hold group button down, press pattern to copy
do not release bank button, select ‘paste to’ pattern, hold paste until timer elapses
now move to pattern B
copy page from 3 e.g. to page 1
shorten track to 1 page (do this quickly whilst pg1 is still playing)
edit buffer track, copy page, change back to orig pattern, paste in place (grid rec mode) at correct page (whilst page is not playing ideally)

I feel fairly competent with the rytm besides the song/chain functions. Maybe it’s bc Ive never used an A4 or maybe it’s bc I’m a bit stoned but I have no idea what that ^ means.
Thanks for all the input though everybody. I’m gonna give interfacing with ableton a try. Also, shifting the pattern would def be something that could work for me. Thanks for the suggestions.

I am rather curious, to those with previous Elektron gear: do they release future OS upgrades? Are they just for bug fixes or do they usually add additional features, what about user requested features?

Thanks,
Bubs

Wow, that’s surprising that AR’s song mode doesn’t have the option of offsetting patterns. I think that was pretty standard for any of the elektron machines.[/quote]
I was surprised too! I’ve really not got that far into the RYTM yet… first world problem I know!![/quote]
The a4 is missing this too. I’ve been bitching about it in the a4 feature request thread as I use it a lot on the OT. Anyways, I just did a test with pattern offsets in the OT arranger, but I couldn’t get the a4 to follow. It always jumped to pattern start, so probably the same with the Rytm. I might have missed a setting somewhere, though.

This thread have made me fantasize about some trig+button combo to jump to a specific step while the pattern is playing.

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Also, shifting the pattern would def be something that could work for me. Thanks for the suggestions.

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This can get really confusing If you have a pattern with complex p locks etc as it’s easy to forget where everything was originally (it may well sound awesome in a new position) so keep a track of how many shifts you do if you want it back perfect. I Use this to change the rhythm of a track more than for editing but seems the better suggestion to me is to copy and paste to a blank pattern then paste back, tho I’ve never used that myself.
Slightly unrelated but not and worth noting is you can only shift what is looping… So if you shortened 16 steps to 8 and shift that part the second 8 woul be unchanged. This can be inspiring for making variations of rhythms etc

Wow, that’s surprising that AR’s song mode doesn’t have the option of offsetting patterns. I think that was pretty standard for any of the elektron machines.[/quote]
I was surprised too! I’ve really not got that far into the RYTM yet… first world problem I know!![/quote]
The a4 is missing this too. I’ve been bitching about it in the a4 feature request thread as I use it a lot on the OT.[/quote]
that’s a bit discouraging as i use offsets constantly on the mnm. i’d love to get an AR to replace my SP606 , but there’s a certain joy of sequencing all of your elements on one box.

You can do it then, if you want to copy patterns on the fly without stopping, learning this is a must, the page bit is just an embellishment. Any nudging is gonna screw a live perf, that’s why i request page nudging
Oops, i’ve just come into the room, pesky track separation makes this a no go for multitrack on AR especially. Unless you’re wanting to work on one melodic track e.g. It makes more sense on a running A4 pattern, either way handy chops for sure
We need some global page nudging or local looping for AR

This can get really confusing If you have a pattern with complex p locks etc as it’s easy to forget where everything was originally (it may well sound awesome in a new position) so keep a track of how many shifts you do if you want it back perfect. I Use this to change the rhythm of a track more than for editing but seems the better suggestion to me is to copy and paste to a blank pattern then paste back, tho I’ve never used that myself.
Slightly unrelated but not and worth noting is you can only shift what is looping… So if you shortened 16 steps to 8 and shift that part the second 8 woul be unchanged. This can be inspiring for making variations of rhythms etc [/quote]
Yes. Normally I use shifting for experimentation with altering the rythm. From what I understand and if I’m remembering correctly from experiences with the AR, p-locks shift with the track’s pattern so that shouldn’t be a worry. Im a fairly visual person and I will take note of the active steps before shifting, also of course there is the ear and one can usually tell when the pattern falls back into its original state. Bc you are walking 1/16 steps in most cases it isn’t too hard for me to shift a pattern around and get it back to its original placement.

Thanks for the second tidbit about shortening the length (I’m assuming this is done on the advanced scale menu?) of said pattern, shifting and then returning length to orignal value. That seems it could be very handy indeed