Any OXI Bluetooth users ? I tried some CME WIDI options a while back for a client with not much luck.
Yes and Ive used it with CME’S h12 and h4. Was it just not connecting for you?
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Thanks for reply - mine arrives next week hopefully to test so the question was more about how well it works - the CME BT stuff has fairly significant latency which can me managed to point if its stable but also the overall MIDI jitter is very high with the WIDI dongles. Hoping OXI might have improved on this but not much info…
I personally have had 0 issues with lag. Most important thing is distance, and not having interfering stuff inbetween the Oxi and your BT receiver. But I’ve been able to use the Oxi on my floor laying down while my synths above me on a table were running, maybe 4-6 feet away. So YMMV depending on how noisy it is. I would guess wifi and cell phones would cause some problems beyond a couple feet.
Also, I spoke incorrectly about the h12. I haven’t tested it on my h12 yet because I’m not sure if I can use the same Bluetooth module I got for my h4 in it. I also use my oxi a lot with iPad and it works great over BT.
hmmmmmm - I probably need more detail for the client - when you say zero issues - how laggy exactly ??
Apologies, it would take me more time than I have to get exact numbers, but I’ve seen it perform imperceptibly lag free consistently as long as there is a clear path from Oxi to receiver. Actual numbers would probably be in the 20ms+ range, much like other Bluetooth devices, depending on interference.
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No worries - ouch - maybe I’m out of touch but 20ms seems like a very big number for latency ???
It is but it’s Bluetooth. Wireless anything is really about convenience, not performance.
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Thanks for reply - I’m used to cable based latency numbers - my client has been asking me to test BT as he reads about it online and likes the concept and I can understand the convenience aspect to a point but isn’t music all performance ??? I can’t see the upside yet ???
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I’ve noodled around with it for a bit and, personally, found it clunky. It might have a place but live performance definitely isn’t it.
appreciate the reply - what that place is I’m not quite certain - its a performance instrument right ?
It is a performance instrument, but I personally would not ever rely on Bluetooth for a professional gig. Too much chance of interference. I’m sure some people do use it that way and get away with it, but imo no matter the device, wired is the only way to go when performing live. I only use BT at home when writing or jamming with friends.
…Unless you have really nice wireless gear for different radio frequencies, but that’s just not a thing for controllers. (that I’m aware of). Might be a market there, but I don’t think there’s a MIDI over radio protocol.
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Hi, I would join their Discord for that question. IRRC this has already been discussed there.
Not to forget: This tool is still work in progress in the best way of that meaning. There are lots of functional updates / upgrades, bug fixing and optimizations. All supported by very motivated and experienced admins.
In my experience with Oxi mk1 and mk2 bluetooth midi is terrible. Clock over bluetooth is basically unusable
Are you referring to things running an OS like tablets and laptops or specialised gear like CME? That the former sucks is a well known problem because the whole BT stack of common OSs is really not made for real-time clocking like MIDI. If you watch closely, not even regular keyboard and mice perform well over BT. Audio only works because there’s a lot of buffering going on.
Both. I guess Bluetooth midi in general
The CME stuff was ok for entering notes into the sequencerand midi note latency isnt too bad- wouldn’t want to use it for drum sequencing- but lag/latency is an issue for clock which is unreliable
For iOS and OXi connected via bluetooth clock is erratic too
BT seems like an odd thing to use for music production / performance - these CME WIDI things might be OK from a tidy studio point of view but in practice…
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I got one, with dreams of chilled out, sofa-based sequencing, but in reality even step sequencing felt laggy and weird enough to put me off.
Back to hunching over the desk.
In my experience, quality music production and comfort/convenience rarely live in the same universe. The idea that making music is easy is marketing spin — it sells a lot of gear that doesn’t really deliver.
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