Overbridge PRO/Overbridge Free

d2ba · 2015-01-08T19:00:54.000Z

As far as copy protection goes —you’d sell a lot in first few months
then sales would stop after it has been cracked so you need to tie it to Elektron hardware to stop these guys trying to crack your software
Maybe not ilok but having the hardware as a dongle and auth solution like ableton would be ok

the_dreammer · 2015-01-08T19:05:54.000Z

""d2ba"":

Im thinking maybe Overbridge Pro should have something like an Octatrack plugin -that can handle higher sample rates ( 96KHZ 24 bit )
Would be a solution for Octatrak owners that are missing out due to hardware limitations?
Just floating the idea that a Pro version for a “modest fee” might not be such a bad idea and food for thought for Elektron
have you seen what Soundtoys/Avid/Digidesign/Brainworx charge for their plugins?

You cant solve a hardware problem/limitation with new firmware/software… so there cannot be a pro-version that supports the octatrack… they would need to make a hardware-fix/upgrade for it…
and for that 2 work… you need to send back your octatrack.
THIS will be something they can charge for…

thus no need for an ilok… you need a physical device to make it work.
no elektron that supports overbridge… no overbridge…
so please sir… if you have bright ideas you want to discuss… get informed.
I still say your debate-bait…

d2ba · 2015-01-08T19:56:22.000Z

What I meant is a a virtual Octratrack as part of Overbridge Pro, incentive
for the community to buy in and a way for Elektron to get paid for their design work.
(Now that would be something else —higher sample rates , bit rates )
I think its a much more viable idea then above posters suggestion to get Octatrak hardware updated ?

maybe a conversion tool to export your project to the physical Octatrak for existing Octatrak owners that are missing out on Overbridge?

Dogma · 2015-01-08T20:03:48.000Z

Is it not insulting to pay for something when its intent was to offered for free? And theres no “non Elektron BOx” owning elektron users - no box, no Overbridge.

This is the silliest thing Ive seen proposed on this site…

Elektron dont charge for OS/softeware updates. Never have and hopefully never will

avantronica · 2015-01-08T20:10:24.000Z

…blimey … I can’t work out if this is for real or an Elektronauts thread in the style of the Onion, hopefully the latter though I’m all for free thinking, no offence meant, sincerely, but it’s up in the clouds

the_dreammer · 2015-01-08T20:37:59.000Z

""d2ba"":

What I meant is a a virtual Octratrack as part of Overbridge Pro, incentive
for the community to buy in and a way for Elektron to get paid for their design work.
(Now that would be something else —higher sample rates , bit rates )
I think its a much more viable idea then above posters suggestion to get Octatrak hardware updated ?

maybe a conversion tool to export your project to the physical Octatrak for existing Octatrak owners that are missing out on Overbridge?

What you suggest, a conversion-tool/manager for the octatrack. yeah some people on this forum would kiss elektrons ass and then lick it twice… but then again… call me weird. but If elektron makes one… I want it for free… if rusty ever finishes his… he can charge whatever he wants…
I still think your trying to hard, to fix a problem that doesn’t exist… and if it existed, its not your problem… I am still not sure what exactly you want to discuss, other then : Do you elektronauts like to be cashcows? would you pay for this or that… and I think the answer is:
most would not… some say they will… a minority actually would be happy about it…
so the majority would most likely feel “shitted on” and that’s just bad business…

KOTARE · 2015-01-08T22:01:53.000Z

I think Elektron has enough money, we don’t need to pass the hat around guys.

I’m pretty sure that they’re “getting paid for their design efforts” and are most definitely not doing it “for free”.

Mivo · 2015-01-09T12:41:58.000Z

That looks like bait, yeah.

But anyway, I’d not be thrilled if Overbridge had a crippled free and a full-featured “pro” version. When I bought the RYTM (and made plans to pick up the A4), Overbridge was an aspect that did contribute to the decision to drop the money.

Not worried, though. As someone else said, getting free updates and new features is part of the business model. A free Overbridge increases hardware sales.

subtractive · 2015-05-22T14:25:03.000Z

Haste makes waste . . .

If Elektron would require money for overbridge, they would should oneself in the food.
Moog & Access deliver also some free software to connect the hard- and software.
But the Elektron overbridge is a new fantastic and innovative hardware integration as never before.

So it takes more time to present a proper working software and this what we all want …

TrabanT · 2015-05-22T14:28:39.000Z

""avantronica"":

…blimey … I can’t work out if this is for real or an Elektronauts thread in the style of the Onion, hopefully the latter though I’m all for free thinking, no offence meant, sincerely, but it’s up in the clouds

OB = onion bridge … L O V E I T !! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

subbz2k · 2015-05-22T14:58:47.000Z

Yeah, lol - cool Idea ^^ Especially if you consider the fact that Overbridge was a selling point to a lot of the more recent buyers of the analog gear … that expect this to be free when its done!

Overbridge could’ve been a chargeable Update, sure. But in that case they should have clearly declared it as optional in the first place and more important: They should have delivered the regular updates for the machines in the time beeing - new machines for the AR for example i guess lots of people already forgot that they were promised at launch ^^ But they didnt and so i dont see why i should pay money for the experiment Elektron does here.

subbz2k · 2015-05-22T15:00:02.000Z

""subtractive"":

But the Elektron overbridge is a new fantastic and innovative hardware integration as never before.

not correct, Access did the same with the Virus TI decades ago already

Only new thing from Elektron is that they deliver a dedicated mixer software as it seems and a little more Ins/Outs (AR) thanks to USB 2, while the Virus only had USB 1.1 and therefore just 3 simultaneous audio streams - in stereo though. But the rest is not new, i still love Access for beeing the Inventor of Total Integration Considering the power of the Virus (80+ voices if you do it right) this integration also makes a lot of sense and complements the Synth’s general “layered” architecture. It has to proove if Elektrons version of the TI will make equal sense in an anlog - rather performance oriented - hardware domain. We will know when its done

Mies_van_der_Robot · 2015-05-22T15:51:22.000Z

""d2ba"":

Pro Version should have copy protection --like ilok or similar

Wash your mouth out and never speak those words again.

djadonis206 · 2015-05-22T15:58:17.000Z

Isn’t the AR or A4 THE copy protection for OB?

There’s some serious flaws in the OP’s logic.

One would have to steal an AR or A4 just to use OB. And if you’re stealing hardware just to use software, you’ve got some other weird issues going on and may need to rethink some things…

BUT to be fair, Elektron is working with a public relations staff that doesn’t know how to manage its customers’ expectations. Remind me when’s the public beta of OB supposed to be released???

Zymos · 2015-05-22T16:28:10.000Z

[quote=“” djadonis206""]
Isn’t the AR or A4 THE copy protection for OB?

There’s some serious flaws in the OP’s logic.

One would have to steal an AR or A4 just to use OB. And if you’re stealing hardware just to use software, you’ve got some other weird issues going on and may need to rethink some things…

BUT to be fair, Elektron is working with a public relations staff that doesn’t know how to manage its customers’ expectations. Remind me when’s the public beta of OB supposed to be released???
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Not to give this stupidity more attention than it deserves, but what the OP was saying was for Elektron to release a pro version, that costs money- presumably they would want copy protection to make it harder for people using the free version to pirate it.

science · 2015-05-22T17:00:31.000Z

""d2ba"":

Suggest to Elektron they make an Overbridge PRO and Overbridge Free
Im sure people would be willing to pay USD$199 for a pro version ?
Pro Version should have copy protection --like ilok or similar
We can’t expect Elektron to work for nothing ?
Feedback on this idea?

Or every OS update they could charge us the full retail price of another A4/Akeys/AR.
Both of our ideas are awesome! (but i think we’ve lost our minds).

jikksfrikks · 2015-05-22T17:26:06.000Z

why the fuck in hell would anybody want a ‘pro’ version…

Elektron , just release it please - now … bugs and all … get it out of the way…

Then get back to focus on the hardware … and no new releases … jeez - these fuckers are riddled enough

TheRocketeer · 2015-05-22T17:53:34.000Z

""d2ba"":

Suggest to Elektron they make an Overbridge PRO and Overbridge Free
Im sure people would be willing to pay USD$199 for a pro version ?
Pro Version should have copy protection --like ilok or similar
We can’t expect Elektron to work for nothing ?
Feedback on this idea?

Your people need you.
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djsm · 2015-05-25T22:27:39.000Z

""the_dreammer"":

Hmmm… all these replies, and not a word from the original poster.
he didn’t even specified what would be more pro about the pro version.
he only added: lets add copy-protection to it… which is a known keyword to trigger massive discussions about how sucky it works…

Smells like a debat-bait to me… OP is sitting at home laughing his ass off, with you all discussing… it would have been allot more valid, if the OP actually thought of the difrences between a free/lite version and a pro version… it could even be that the OP thinks that overbridge is a virtual elektron-machine-plugin… instead of a software interface to your hardware (in the form of a plugin).

OP works for Roland and is bitter that OB will be free and Roland can’t even do a simple update without charging…

quadrica · 2015-05-25T23:14:52.000Z

I think that it’s not good idea to sell overbridge. All Elektron users have paid BIG money for the great machines. They are believe in little swedish company that create magic instruments. As to me, I’ll prefer to reserve this 200 $ (or Euro) to the next Elektron machine.
As to Overbridge - this is great product, that so many people are waiting for a long time, and now, at the finish lane this topic - is hysteria. Just wait for little time, try, and respect Elektron engineers!