Overbridge, Digitakt, and track panning

(Advance notice: I tried having a look around for other topics covering this, but nothing popped up. I also haven’t come across the answer to this in the DT or Overbridge manuals. Please let me know if I’m just asleep at the wheel.)

Quick question for the masses regarding USB audio out via Overbridge. It seems individual audio tracks only go out in mono. I know that the reverb and delay sends are stereo, but what I’m wondering about is track panning. What’s the recommended solution here — re-doing panning in Ableton (or whatever DAW the USB is going out to)? For constant panning this isn’t a big deal, but having to redo panning automation is a bit tedious, never mind conditional pans etc.

Tell me I’m just missing something? :sweat_smile:

Overbridge streams individual outs only in mono, so you’ll need to do this in your DAW

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Well crap! That’s a shame. Thanks for the info!
Side note: is this something that could theoretically be updated via firmware? Otherwise the pan setting makes little sense with Overbridge. :thinking:

I’m fairly new to the elektron world but For me It seems panning and effects are better to be done in ableton so can be automated etc later since only send effects anyhow.
I done a big recording session and just seems more of a hassle to record fx because it’s on separate tracks.

I doubt it - the tracks are output as mono currently. Making them output in stereo would I assume pretty much double the bandwidth of the audio being sent via USB, and I imagine similar CPU demands etc.

it’s a shame, but I’m not sure there’s any way round a lot of this sort of stuff with panning/FX really?

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You can stream panned tracks one at a time via the stereo master outs. If there is a particular thing you think would be difficult to achieve in a DAW environment this is probably your best bet. You could set up a template so that you have the master outs on a certain channel in your DAW and mute tracks on the Digi when necessary. In principle I think it probably makes mixing easier if you record out mono and do this in a DAW (faffing around with panned stems would be a pain if you need to make adjustments down the line), but get that as part of the creative process using these tools is important and that there are certain things the hardware can do much better (such as P locks etc).

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@Romerp @the_duckchild Good points all around. I can definitely see how the bandwidth and CPU requirements would quickly escalate with stereo outputs on each track. The streaming of one track at a time via master outs sounds like the most viable workaround when Plocking the panning is important. Thanks to both of you!

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Sorry to revive this Topic. I was aware of the Panning situation in OB. But now, and I don’t know why, with the Digitone only (not DT, AR or A4), you can Pan the Tracks using OB. All the Settings in those Devices (DN, DT, AR, A4) are the same. I’m looking for answers.

Theoretically if the audio tracks sent midi information you could midi map the pan to your daw pan for each channel, but as far as I know that currently isnt possible :frowning: so no plocks for pan using overbridge atm :frowning:

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This is a bummer for those times when the random LFO>Hold>Pan gives a wonderful bit of motion to a track, like a shaker for instance.

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Yeah this is a shame. For panning automation in the DAW, I use Soundtoys Panman, which is excellent and can achieve this kind of movement (although it’s pretty pricy when it’s not on sale or bundled in the Soundtoys suite)

I just tried midi mapping the pan parameter knob on my Rytm to the pan parameter in Ableton and it works. So in a live situation you could at least pan with the knob. The real bummer is that the LFO can not be used to affect the panning. Any workarounds?

Ableton Live 10, Windows 10, DT, DN, A4 mk2, AR mk2.

I was pissed by the Panning situation using Overbridge so yesterday I build a new Template in Ableton to play Live. This way, everything I do on the Machines is reflected in the DAW.

Very simple. I will take Digitakt as an example.

First, make sure that you send all the Tracks and FX to the Master Output of the DT (Audio Routing in the Settings).

Next, load the Digitakt plug-in and Mute it.

Add an Audio Track : Audio From Digitakt, Post FX. Monitor In.

Now, everything that you do on the DT will be reflected in your DAW.

You can even use the Kick to Sidechain the other elements. Add an Audio Track : Audio From Digitakt, Track 1 (if the Kick is on Track 1), Monitor In. Unroute the Kick from the Master Output of the DT.

Use the Ableton Compressor.

Here’s a Screenshot