Overbridge and Reaper

I was using this way for ages but it broke with Overbridge 2. I’ve had to reinstall all of my Overbridge 2 utils and finally got everything to work.

I installed the latest version of overbridge ( 2.0.65) last night and the latest digitakt firmware ( OS 1.30B) that came out in February. The sync is massively improved and seems solid and also the DT did not lose its connection to overbridge at all over 3 hours.
The release notes for both these updates specifically mention fixes for sync issues and connection losses, they seem to have sorted it!
I get the occasional ‘false start’ with reaper, when I start the transport and the DT just clicks and doesn’t start, but most times it start and runs great!

I got to ask : what are your audio interface settings, plugin buffer settings and margin ?

I am still struggling to find the best settings within reaper.

Also I still have latency/jitter issues in reaper (unfortunatly).

Does Overbridge plugin appears as “64 bridged” to you in reaper ?
I am using reaper 64, and overbridge is obviously 64, so there is no reason that it should be bridged… strange

My audio interface in an EMU 0404 pci card on Windows 7 which is 64bit running on an old quad core extreme PC. The interface is set to 48 kHz.
Reaper (64 bit) audio is set to 48 kHz 24bit using the EMU Asio driver. Sample rate: 48000, Block size: 256.
Asio config is 8ms (that’s a driver setting, not a reaper setting)

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Digitakt os is 1.30B, Overbridge version is 2.1.1.2

Digitakt midi is USB, audio is via the audio outs, or usb when using Overbridge, Reaper is the latest version 6.67.

As for your other question, Overbridge does not show as 64 bridged. Only 32bit plug ins show as 32 bridged. Bridging occurs when you use a plugin that is not the same as your DAW (Reaper). This would suggest that you have accidentally installed a 32 bit version on Reaper instead of a 64 bit version.
Might be best to download the latest 64 bit Reaper and try again. Hope that helps.

Also in the Digitakt settings>midi config>port settings, set the input and output to just USB.
In Digitakt settings> System> usb config make sure OVERBRIDGE is ticked.

Sounds like you have multiple formats installed, and the 32bit version is in a folder that’s ‘higher’ in Reaper’s hierarchy that the 64bit version. You could delete the 32bit dll, or do a fresh install and only select one of the vst versions like this

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Thanks for sharing your config !

And overbridge sync completly works ?

Also about the bridge things, I know what bridging is and that what puzzles me:

  • I use reaper 64 bit (I am not crazy :smiley: )
  • and reaper displays “bridge 64” which is silly… if it was bridging from a 32 bit plugins, it would display ''bridge 32" right ?

@braken : Are you using reaper with OB sync without issue as well ?

@deebeedee and @braken :

I found out about the bridging thing : you can ask reaper to run plugin within a separate process, that is what caused it.

However, On reaper, the latency compensation randomly doesn’t work : with a 256 buffer setting, when I record my digitakt, I sometimes have a latency of about 6 milisecond (which at 44100 hz correspond to approximatly the size of the buffer). Saying in another, It is as if the latency of the plugin was sometimes not compensated at all.

Do you also have this issue ?

Man, it was ages ago that I set up Reaper so I don’t really remember what my latency settings look like. I believe that I allow Reaper to do it’s own compensation based on it’s PDC measurement. I had made manual latency adjustments at one point, but they basically go out the window as soon as you have a different plugin config, and the auto-setting works well enough for me.

The only thing resembling a sync issue I have, is that when I press record it takes a few seconds to catch up (kind of like a record player coming up to speed) and start recording as expected. Once that short catch up period is done, I rarely have to adjust my audio more than a few samples, if at all. Really depends on what else I have going on in the session.

I’ve always left a four bar count-in for any hw recording because I started using Reaper primarily to record guitar/bass, and I needed a second to get from clicking record to hands on the fretboard. It’s habit at this point, but I should probably try to troubleshoot that slight catch-up issue at some point.

I setup Reaper and Overbridge to use with my Rytm MKII. On my M1 Mac with a UAD Apollo Twin I have been having some intermittent latency and sync issues. The “catch up” thing happens all the time when transport is enabled. I set a 2 bar count in and that seems to help. I noticed randomly that the the click and the Rytm would start out of sync. Rebooting the Rytm would kinda help.

Bummer that it is so inconsistent. Such a great feature, but not super solid.

I have the same sync issue with my digitone using overbridge in Reaper. The best performance I’ve had is using the digitone as my main soundcard, routing the audio into individual tracks, then sending it a midi clock and transport from Reaper. So you’re just building your own sudo overbridge.

Yes, I have the same issues, including the catchup thingy.
That is painful as I like the idea of sequencing software synth in reaper on the timeline while I play the digitakt over it.

It is not too bad, but it works cleary better on ableton for instance and I was wondering If anyone had some tricks up his sleeves to have a much consistent behaviour.

The only trick I found so far is to let always let the track containing the overbridge plugin armed (and set with record None, monitoring only) which forces reaper to prioritize this particular track.

@Akio_Daku : I have also tried to use the midi clock from reaper, but I personnally have much worse results.

Otherwise Overbridge works very well for me but I wish they could improve the sync on reaper. I know I could use ableton or else, but I feel way more comfortable with reaper.

What are you sending the clock over midi or USB? Cos I’ve found that if you use the USB for audio only and din for midi clock I get a good sync. Also if folk don’t know, when you just want to sequence with Reaper, you can auto sync if you use the Reainsert plugin treating your Elektron like other outboard. Then it’s all perfect.

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Yes, reinsert is pretty cool, there are also JS plugin that send midi clock that you can put on a reaper track and set the track to send midi to your midi port.

However, I don’t wanna do this because I like to work this way : I loop 4 bars (or 8) in reaper, sequence a soft synth, record a violin/guitar/vocal, sequence digitakt, record multi-track of digitakt.

I don’t want back and forth between reinsert and overbridge. However, with the current Overbridge sync, I can work this way but I always need to check if the sync is working or not, which affects my creativity a bit.

I am the production kinda of elektron user, I don’t jam that much, I don’t make live shows… I produce and overbridge feels like an essential tool to me for this purpose (and is pretty awesome).

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I totally get that, don’t get me wrong I’d rather overbridge be bug free, I just see the above as work arounds. My main work flow now is to write on one of my individual elektron boxes to start a peice, sample that into Koala then sync Koala to another box to finish writing. Then I’ll render stems out of Koala and mix in daw. I’d just rather be on the couch or in bed, so a box and my phone is the perfect way for me to do things. :rofl:

HI, I’m not home until Friday to check for sure, but I’m sure I changed the midi setting in ‘preferences’ for the Digitakt to ‘no spp/continue’ and that made a big difference to the false starts.
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Interesting, I wouldn’t have looked for a song position setting (I think that’s what SPP is). I’ll give this a shot tomorrow for sure

I record everything in ableton, it works, then I put my tracks in reaper for the other things… I don’t understand why it’s not working in both!

I still prefer reaper with not so good sync than ableton with good sync.

At the opposite of most of the elektron users I see on the internet, I mostly work with my DAW, and the digitakt is recorded on some parts as an instrument like any other. I don’t want to spend time deciding which DAW I am going to use for each project, that may or may not involve the digitakt. Also, I know reaper like the back of my hand, knowing the shortcuts, having my sample library tidy (which is way better than ableton way of managing samples IMO), project templates, midi controller mapping and so on.

The day I need to move to another platform, I will, but I won’t do it because of this sync issue. Still it would br so convenient to have it fixed :smiley:

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