Yeah he mentioned someone experiencing something similar and stated the same to me. Definitely the best feedback I’ve had from a company on a new product.
I think my bleed issues were in fact caused by my ADAT interface, and not from the Bebe, personally, as I cannot reproduce it with any other inputs.
Also, your track may not have posted correctly? Would love to have a listen!
So the recessed switches are by design. Carry on then. And @Scene I agree the summing is really incredible, it’s really transforming some of my tracks for the better
After the pre-production batch, I’ve decided to recess the rear switch in order to protect them and to avoid unwanted switching during live situations.
With the manufacturing tolerances, the switch can be recessed a bit to much, but unfortunately there’s no way to move them (the switches are soldered on a board with no much room).
The stock photos on our website were made before that modification and not reflect the actual position of the switches.
We will update that.
I use my nails, the tip of a 1/8" cable or a rollerball pen cap to move these swicthes.
Here’s a little demo of a loop from a track. Each 4 bars I switch between the DAW version and the Bebe Cherie version. I’ve tried to volume match each.
I split the track into 4 frequency groups and the settings on Bebe were as follows…
I adjusted the gain on each channel so the red LED on Bebe just about tickles on at times and then adjusted the level knob to re-balance each track. (DAW version is first).
What I find quite incredible is that for this demo, the compressor and Bliss circuits were switched off. So this is just the effect of the gain saturation and analogue summing. Wow!
It sounds even sweeter once Bliss and the compressor are added
The stereo field sounds nicer to me after going through the Bebe. From the routing it sounds like post-Bebe everything at 300 Hz and below is mono? Was it the same for the purely DAW version?
I imagine the DAW version probably has some stereo spread around 200hz and above but I don’t know exactly how much. The reason the 2 channels below 300hz were mono is a lack of outputs on my audio interface.
I got the album finished. My interface was the culprit of earlier issues posted so I, too, had to use less outputs (4 total, 2 hi, 2 low).
I ran each mix through the Bebe’s distortion channels 3/4 or the Bandxall channels 5/6 (+10) and would choose which sounded better in the final bounce down. Channels 3/4 tended to push the track more and channels 5/6 were chosen for busier mixes.
I was liberal with the amounts of Bliss/Compression used and you can definitely hear it. “Loaner” and “VHX” are good examples of what it does to guitars and “Mrow” has an acoustic if you want to hear that being pushed.
I do miss the 8 channel bounce downs I was able to do before my ADAT interface kicked the bucket mid-master…
Anyways, this is my first album; an idea I’d been flirting with for years, like many of you, I’m sure. Thank you all for being so supportive and allowing me to share! The feedback has been tremendous and if you have any about this album, please do share!
curious of your guys’ process deciding which type of channel (1-4 or 5/6) to run different types of sources into? I guess obviously, if you have no way of controlling the output level of the source, you would go through channel 1-4. otherwise curious what your thinking is for the tilt vs 2-band EQ with different instruments
I wish there were some good A/B demos of this unit. like short, couple-bars clean then a couple bars wet demos. I saw the one above from @KidYoshi but it’s unclear what I’m hearing and when from that. the differences are subtle, to me.
What it does can be subtle, but is still noticeable. My demo—which is only using the incoming audio saturation and summing (so no compression or Bliss)—every 7 seconds I switch from Dry to Wet. The order is Dry / Wet / Dry / Wet.
In my opinion, the Wet sounds more open and rounded vs. the DAW Dry version which feels slightly more closed.
You can really push things though. By engaging more saturation, eq, compression and bliss you can really take audio to new places.
Mine is currently in for repair to fix the issue with the muting but when I get it back I’ll make something a bit more comprehensive.
I guess what I’d really like is a video showing audio going through the two track options and what happens as the tilt or hi/lo are used, likewise with the compressor and bliss options. I only say video because then it would be clear what is being done to the sound. an audio file could work though, if it’s described well.
OTO never did anything like this? I don’t see anything. the only video they have, it’s not entirely clear what is from the mixer and what’s not. I’m thinking like just a simple drum loop through these channels/treatments with no treatments applied and then introduced one by one and changed, so you can hear the effect they’re having. and then likewise with a synth loop or a whole track.
I really like how @Duskmos demoed the BIM here, just playing the same handful of sounds through each preset so you can really get an understanding of the character the unit imparts on sound -
So few reviewers and manufacturers do this kind of thing which is really frustrating. I guess it’s perhaps less fun or creative to make videos like that but it’s so much more helpful for the prospective buyer.
I’m currently considering getting one, if I do I’d like to try to record something like this. No promises yet but if I do I’d happily accept suggestions for approach and types of sounds to feed through it. I did a basic demo of the BOUM aaages ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HC6cGLvaQw
Linking just for reference, it’s not at all as methodical as I’d like to make a potential demo of the Bébé of course. Hence the title of aimless noodling.
both great walkthroughs! again I’m surprised OTO hasn’t done this. doesn’t need the talking even, for this. it’ll be pretty obvious what’s happening, with just a top down view of the mixer.
well Detroit Modular had an open box one, and I couldn’t resist. so if nobody else makes one, I guess I will.