OT Special Tricks

license · 2015-01-28T14:47:15.000Z

""reeloy"":

…i love the probabilty option in my lxr…

and i was really surprised not to find such a thing in the elektrons, when i got them last year…

…so, i’ll give that one a try…but a dedicated probability parameter should’nt be that hard to implement, my swedish fellows…i’d love it…and many others, too…

To me, a big strength of the Elektron paradigm is that the LFOs are so flexible and powerful that you can easily set up stuff like this with them. At first it might feel weird or hacky. But the alternative is a ton of menus and options for specific things like this, always there in the interface for you to jump over, and possibly always running in the engine, bogging down the CPU, even if you only use them 1% of the time.
For me the Elektron approach is a lot more elegant, I just reconfigure an LFO to do what I need for that particular sound. With this approach it’s also easy to experiment and come up with stuff that Elektron or I would never have thought of. Freedom through flexibility. Even moreso on the Monomachine where you can lock all the LFO settings per step!

MK7 · 2015-01-30T08:57:39.000Z

my 2 cents to probabilistic trig behaviour, although far less sophisticated than what’s been discussed above: map the LFO to STRT instead of VOL the trigs sound slightly different in this case and when STRT is very high the effect is the same as in case of VOL being very low.

@avantronica: thx for the additional clarifications

MK7 · 2015-03-02T04:28:49.000Z

A lot of insights to be found in the science lab february (2015) thread, just to keep potential readers of this thread aware of it:

http://www.elektronauts.com/t/ot-what-have-you-learned-during-the-scilab-challenge/10824

MK7 · 2016-03-07T15:47:52.000Z

Octatrack probability hack using MIDI arpeggios:

http://www.elektronauts.com/t/octatrack-probability-hack/18049

MonstreJumo · 2016-08-31T11:25:15.517Z

Great thread indeed!

My little participation :

Create pattern variations with “silent trigs” and scenes,

On a track, create some trigs with pLocked VOL to 0 (even doable between other trigs actually playing), and then have a scene that locks this track XVOL to MAX. When using this scene, the silent trigs will play, like you get another track running

Kind of scene locking partial mutes!

Use it with one shot trigs for lots of variations!

Cheers

Autopoiesis · 2016-09-03T05:45:12.847Z

Here are my favorite OT tricks that I haven’t seen discussed before, outside of my ramblings on forums.

Use the LFO designer to sequence notes, because you can modulate the order of the sequence with LFOs and you can use it for intertrack modulation. One example
Design quadrature-phase LFOs, use them for circular modulation of 4 parameters, and morph the speed or direction of the circular motion with scenes. For example, swirling a sound around 4 speakers. Also, you could use quad-phase LFOs to create a Shepard tone / sonic barberpole with just one sample of a sound whose pitch is rising - repeat the sample across 4 tracks, delay the sample progressively by “90 degrees” on each track, and route a quadrature-phase triangle designer LFO to each track’s amplitude. I don’t know of another hardware sampler that allows you to do something like this.
To get probabilistic Note On action, route a random LFO to note velocity (such that the LFO’s level and/or the base velocity level entail that the LFO will make the note hit 0 velocity sometimes) and turn off velocity sensitivity on whatever synth you’re sequencing. (You can still sequence velocity with a MIDI CC if your synth is flexible enough.)
“Latch” up to 7 notes on the arpeggiator by holding them down in Chromatic mode and then keeping them held while you switch back to Tracks mode. In TRUE arp mode, you can build up a sequence this way. You can remove notes by going back to Chromatic mode and re-pressing the latched keys (shown as still held down on the keyboard visualization). These arpeggio “sequences” can be stored to parts, but they will be wiped from memory as soon as you pause or stop the sequencer. This is kind of like how you can latch the performance pads on the Rytm by switching modes while holding a pad down.
You can do some bizarre physical modeling of flutes by putting the Chorus’s feedback at its max and bringing its delay close to minimum.

I’m pretty sure #4 is a bug, but it’s a fun one – please don’t fix it, Elektron!

I also love that you can ratchet notes in the microtiming page (press up!), as well as via the arp.

Ryan · 2016-09-03T06:00:49.491Z

Since the audio pool remains the same across projects, I intend to work between two projects. One for composition and and one for sound scavenging. The sound scavenging I just work on recording sounds and arranging samples to be spliced and rearranged. Therapeutic, I reckon. Just sound experiments and noisy nonsense with no need to make sense of anything. And then to take those globs of sound and arrange them in something slightly enjoyable will surely be an interesting process

Ryan · 2016-09-03T06:02:17.496Z

What do you mean “rachet notes”?

Ryan · 2016-09-03T06:09:10.743Z

Oh! A really cool thing I enjoy doing is sending selective arp to my MnM, A4, and AR. The AR-right now- is the least useful. But with the A4 and MnM it’s like opening up a retrigger function for some notes, but also with note variation added on. The midi capabilities of this thing are amazing, and I’ve actually learned a lot about the concept of midi just from using this machine. I thought it was cool as a sampler alone, the midi implementation makes it like the holy grail of music

Autopoiesis · 2016-09-03T06:10:12.721Z

Retriggered notes within the same step. Classic Berlin school trick.

Ryan · 2016-09-03T06:11:01.373Z

Ooooh! Nice

avantronica · 2016-09-03T10:47:42.433Z

MonstreJumo:

On a track, create some trigs with pLocked VOL to 0 (even doable between other trigs actually playing), and then have a scene that locks this track XVOL to MAX. When using this scene, the silent trigs will play, like you get another track running

I’m not sure i can replicate this on a per Trig basis, am I missing something - you also mean pLocked to -64 I presume and you’re implying 1 scene only ?

MonstreJumo · 2016-09-03T10:57:16.175Z

Hi,

Yes, thanks for correction, I meant pLock VOL = -64.

I don’t really understand what you mean by “per trig basis”, you can silent one or more trigs on a track and " unsilent" them with the dedicated scene(s). I guess its a bit like the one shot trigs trick but with scene-lock.

I’ll take an example (the way I “discovered” this trick)

This is only for sequenced tracks with one-shots I guess,

Say you have all tracks used for a pattern, but you want an additional hihat line to be played on top at some times (but not playing when no scene is active), you can place sample-locked and silenced trigs between, say, your kicks in the kick track. Then have a scene (or more) for which XVOL is locked to MAX for this track. When you don’t use this or these scene(s), you don’t hear the hihats (kind of muted), and when you need them, activate the scene with the xvol lock.

Hope I’m clear. This is not the “ultimate trick” but can greatly enhance the live joy

avantronica · 2016-09-03T11:23:40.172Z

MonstreJumo:

I don’t really understand what you mean by “per trig basis”, you can silent one or more trigs on a track and " unsilent" them with the dedicated scene(s).

I’m still not replicating this behaviour, pLocked AmpVol trigs remain off, maybe needs a step by step for those of us (i.e. me) not in the room yet on this Using XVol usually requires moving between two scenes (one locking XVol to Min), you’re talking about parameter locking rather than scene locking the ‘mute’ - I’m not with you on this one yet - just curious

MonstreJumo · 2016-09-03T13:14:03.932Z

Ah ah! Maybe I’m totally unclear

I got the OT a few months ago so I may be wrong with the terminology?

For this “trick” I use both pLocks and scene-locks.

Scene-locks seem to “force” or override the trigs pLocks, on my OT anyway.

XVOL doesn’t need 2 scenes, if scene slot A is deactivated, track amp VOL is defined by the part’s track’s amp vol parameter. The silenced trigs won’t play as they are plocked to xvol=-64. If scene B is active with a scene that scene-locks the track’s XVOL to MAX, then moving xfader to slot B will make the silenced trigs actually play, at the volume defined in the part.

I’ll have a look on my OT, perhap’s am I wrong somewhere lol

avantronica · 2016-09-03T13:23:02.125Z

MonstreJumo:

If scene B is active with a scene that scene-locks the track’s XVOL to MAX, then moving xfader to slot B will make the silenced trigs actually play, at the volume defined in the part.

Not for me at any rate, that’s why I was curious - there’s one step missing or we’re on different pages It sorta relates to a recent thread where the outcome you describe is what was sought but all the solutions were different iirc

MonstreJumo · 2016-09-03T13:43:28.368Z

OK I’m on the OT right now and I realise I made a huge mistake :

I scene-lock track’s amp VOL and not XVOL…

I’m a bit dumb there

Gotta edit all the posts here where I was saying LOUD a wrong processus ah ah…

Thanks to you!

Edit:

I just checked and indeed XVOL scene-lock doesn’t override the VOL pLocks.

BUT, for the 2-scenes needed for XVOL duties, I can still say that you can do it with just 1 scene. I.e. using a scene with XVOL=MIN will “mute” the track. Doing it right now with no problem between inactive A scene and active B scene.

Cheers

kisielk · 2016-09-22T03:13:13.885Z

I do this, but no need for a new project if you are not using all the banks. I just have one bank set up for sound capture. Another bank for live looping.

Ryan · 2016-09-22T11:06:41.211Z

Brilliant! Thank you!

Open_Mike · 2017-10-09T22:27:17.071Z

Bump for mk2 arrival…
I noticed Octatrack Tips & Tricks (OT Tips) got some attention,
This thread’s good too…
Happy ing…