OT Parts- is this normal behaviour?

Hello all

Finally, after 3 or so years, finally overcame my mental block with Parts, and since then have been using them liberally, creating a large-ish live set across multiple banks with 3-4 parts per bank. Its great, and i feel like ive unlocked a ton of potential that was previously lying un-used, and has totally opened up the OT for what i always intended to do with it but couldnt figure out how…

…however- ive noticed a few odd quirks that have only sprung up since i started using Parts, so im wondering if this is normal behaviour…

Firstly- occasionally, if i change a sample on a track (lets say Tr 7) in Part 1 (or whatever) in Bank A, and then switch to Bank B Part 1, a track (not Tr 7) will have changed its sample to the one i allocated to Tr 7 in Bank A Part 1… The only similarity between the two patterns is that they are both assigned to the same Part (numerically speaking), tho its my understanding that Parts are individual to the banks to which they belong, and in any case this would not explain why Tr2 (for eg) in Bank B (for eg) has now changed to the sample that i allocated to a completely different track number in a different bank…

Secondly, following recording a sample and naming/saving (tho not as a general rule doing assign to self/free static/flex etc), a few times when ive then gone to allocate that sample to a track (for eg Tr6) that sample also gets assigned to the neighbouring track also (eg Tr 5)… While this doesnt seem to be Parts related, this has only just started happening since i began using Parts. Prior to that, i had this fairly rudimentary process nailed without issues.

These things have only happened a few times, but enough to make me lose confidence in using it for an upcoming gig in May, at least until i work out what it is im doing/not doing. As with everything OT, its almost certainly user error, but with these quirks im really at a loss why they would occur. I regularly ‘SAVE ALL’ with the parts, typically when i make a change to a part and prior to switching to a patttern assigned to a different one, and regularly save the whole project also. Ive RTFM many times, including merlins one, but still…

When you are changing the sample how are you doing it? Are you going to the slot list then changing the sample at the slot, or are you selecting a different slot?

If the former then this is why you are seeing the sample change in other parts. To change the sample assigned to a track, if the slot is used in another part then you need to use an empty slot, assign that to the track, and load the sample into that slot.

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yeh i think this is exactly what im doing… Ive never really paid too much attention to how i select samples but then its never been an issue before as i never touched parts.

Pretty sure that solves that part of the query, thanks so much

…Actually just re-reading this and i dont think i am doing this. When loading in a new sample i am careful to select an empty slot and not change an already inhabited one.

when you allocate a sample it is always to a sample slot, if you “assign to track” it assigns to a sample slot then points the track to that sample slot.
so its possible that another track was already set to the empty sample slot that was just filled by your new slot assignment. you can clear sample slots even though tracks are still assigned to those slots.

another possibility is that you changed a tracks machine type. tracks remember their slot assignment even when you change track type, e.g. you can change a flex machine to a static machine and back and it will remember which sample slot it was using before as a flex machine.

if it is a glitch maybe reloading the firmware will help. or copy the firmware your using to the computer and check its hash to see if it might be corrupted. unlikely though.

Yeh i always allocate the new sample to an empty slot, and pretty much never select assign to track when ive recorded a sample (certainly havent done that in this project anyway). The most noticable times that this has happened has been when Tr 2 (which is always a hi hat track and in this project always assigned to the same sample chain, no changes to the track type) suddenly gets assigned a new sample, which will typically be something newly recorded, assigned to an empty slot, and loaded to a different track somewhere else in the project structure

how often does it happen?
doesn’t seem like it could be a hardware problem so if it is a glitch i would try and replace the firmware. update if your not on the newest, delete and re-upload if you are.

Only a few times, enought to put me on edge! Am on the latest firmware, will keep an eye on it i guess

…make it a mantra…parts are kits…and kits have individual but each for itself fixed adresses in the slots lists…

if u adress a pattern to a certain part, it’s tracks are nailed to to that parts fixed/adressed sample slots…

yeh, as i added as a second reply to @darenager (once i had thought it over), im not removing or replacing any of the samples in any of the slots, only allocating new samples to empty slots

Static/Flex, whichever you are using, does the other list contain samples too? When editing/assigning recordings you are usually in the flex list, but I think the default track type is static, can’t remember exactly but worth checking.

Yes, both static and flex contain samples, tho i predominantly use static. i tend not to use a different type of machine for a different part, tho am aware thats possible if i wanted to. when editing/assigning, i always choose ‘save sample copy’, then name it, then grab it from the audio pool in the project directory