OT mk1 suddenly a silent track why?

Kpucski · 2023-03-14T02:18:00.379Z

I still stand by my response in this thread. Sounds very much the same.

I am passing thru old stuff and on several occasions, the track 1 gives no sound. No scenes affecting it, impossible to even preview the sound in the sound pool or within the editor, HOLD and Release on INF, no filter, no LFO. I do have a sound when i CUE the track though. What could cause that? (Let’s save the corrupted project for the end please)

lowph · 2023-03-14T04:11:37.792Z

A track without sound?

I am passing thru old stuff and on several occasions, the track 1 gives no sound.

I didn’t quite understand the premise of that problem. Do you know what “passing thru old stuff” means in this context? Does it mean a thru machine?

thoughtstarZ · 2023-03-14T04:35:34.981Z

Even after more than 5 years using the OT once in every while, mostly when I’m playing with other people, it happens to me. . For me, when this happens I usually just go through the Playback, Amp, LFO, Effect 1 and 2, and I clear them all. And then I have to remember to to re assign input’s on the thru tracks, because when you clear the screen, it also clears those settings. That usually gets rid of the worst of them.

lowph · 2023-03-14T04:40:25.198Z

Yeah, it really does happen a lot! I just laugh when it happens now. I think the biggest one for me is to accidentally set scenes… Accidental p-locks can happen too, because it’s easy to forget I have my finger on a trig, but those are easier to spot when it happens.

Schnork’s memes are funny, but they’re also a great checklist!

Kpucski · 2023-03-14T04:51:34.673Z

I think he just meant listening to old projects or patterns, and some of them had tracks without sound.

lowph · 2023-03-14T04:55:09.803Z

I see. Not necessarily a thru machine. Thanks

Re-reading that thread, I think the scene theory could be right

raimund · 2023-03-14T06:23:26.577Z

Thanks for all that feedback and suggestions. Nice to see that I am not alone.
I had checked for p-locks and scenes and fx and filter and cue. None of that caused the silence. However I did not check cue+yes.
But could get hold of the I famous oktakontrol and that was new to my setup (but I also checked the settings and that should also not be the reason).
What did the trick, was a restart of the OT. So I would assume that there could exist a software bug.

PS: since the Oktakontrol can solo tracks: is there a shortcut on the OT to directly solo Tracks?

sezare56 · 2023-03-14T07:06:04.140Z

raimund:

is there a shortcut on the OT to directly solo Tracks?

Cue + Track trig in Mixer or Quick mute mode.

Oxenholme · 2023-03-14T07:15:41.702Z

Apparently my template project has a thru machine enabled (including playback trig) on track 7 which at the time I thought would be handy. Gave me a good headscratch recently when I was setting up 3 other thru machines with the TR-8 and things wouldn’t mute

sezare56 · 2023-03-14T07:19:47.878Z

The scariest is probably the CC OUT = EXT bug. No sound, stuck knobs…

raimund · 2023-03-14T07:31:45.627Z

What exactly is that bug? Never heard of it.

raimund · 2023-03-14T08:00:20.741Z

In the video at 23:45 he even said that sometimes you just have to reboot the machine.
Maybe I will just restart, when the sample editor does not play any sound with Func+Yes. Or is there any scenario that can cause the Audio-Editor not to play a sound? (I assume there is a setting, but I can not think of any)

And I just remembered, that there are also some situations when the recording sometimes only records silence, or even worse, just record a very quiet signal.

Kraus · 2023-03-14T08:13:25.743Z

Func+Yes preview doesn’t work on T8 when it’s set to Master.

raimund:

there are also some situations when the recording sometimes only records silence

This happened to me recently but it was user error - pressing Rec1 when trying to record from a track output! Made me scratch my head for a while.

There are some bugs in the OT, but in my experience 99% of the time it’s user error.

LyingDalai · 2023-03-14T08:23:38.007Z

If you want to rule out a hardware defect, best thing is to save your project, and create a new one. It helps reporting the doubt on the user action instead of fearing for your machine

sezare56 · 2023-03-14T08:49:54.417Z

LyingDalai:

best thing is to save your project, and create a new one

Yes that is the surest thing, but it is quicker to check in unused bank (fresh part). This elimitates wrong track parameters, scenes, lfos…

raimund:

is there any scenario that can cause the Audio-Editor not to play a sound? (I assume there is a setting, but I can not think of any)

Preview with fx that cut the sound, Attributes gain, Mutes…

raimund:

you just have to reboot the machine.

That’s cheating !
But may reveal a buggy behavior. Wrong settings should last after reboot.

raimund:

What exactly is that bug? Never heard of it.

No output coming from Octatrack Octatrack

I just tried it. Setting AUDIO CC OUT to EXT means the knobs don’t do anything in audio tracks, like @disco was describing in another thread. Also, I get no audio from my main outs, if I set AUDIO CC OUT to EXT, and THEN power cycle, just like @julien1 described. Setting it to INT (I always keep mine on INT) gives me audio out on the next power cycle. Nice find. I wonder if this is an initialisation problem (internal snapshot not getting to track machines) rather than an audio problem as such…

reeloy · 2023-03-14T11:31:27.144Z

…seems to me, ur talking about catched samples…so i suggest, always safe ur recording buffers as soon as possible…and make it a habit to quick safe ur actual project whenever u reached some next level of yeah, this is it…

raimund · 2023-03-14T11:35:38.251Z

reeloy:

catched samples

What are catched samples? Like zombie samples lying around in memory but without data or unaccessible?

PS: do you mean cached samples?

melisshki · 2023-03-14T11:54:41.429Z

Amazing how this always seems to solve my issues

LyingDalai · 2023-03-14T12:37:08.208Z

Whatever the problem an OT user witnesses, if they take the time to investigate they will learn how to quickly identify what’s wrong in live situation.

Bonus trick: they’ll most likely discover a thing or two in the process, a weird shortcut or something…

reeloy · 2023-03-14T13:17:19.433Z

…catching a sample is just me phrasing to actually proceed sampling/recording something…