there are lot of possibilities to get nice effect sounds out of th OT.
but to be honest - the basic sound of them is really not that great.
i replace most of them with external gear.
P-locking cue out would be great.
most of the time i only use filter, delay, and reverb (though having
external reverb and delay too)
recently i made a big investment and purchased two big 32 GB CF cards
for my OT (i lived with 4 GB for 3 years now…)
one reason for that was my wish to use very long tracks
with prerecorded fx/synths/audio. for example one or two minutes
of one loop - starting clean - then adding a nice phaser that is tweaked
live… or something like that. is quite a bit work to realize that but still
feels and sounds better than activating the OT phaser.
i don´t like the lo fi section that much either.
the main problem for me is that i have much better units for nearlly
every OT fx. so it feels strange to activate them in the OT.
on the other side the possibility to sequence the fx parameters in one box
is a lot of fun.
having a decent reverb unit connected to the OT (or a mixer) is a good way
to upgrade the all in all sound of the OT in my opinion.
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For the price the effects should be way more varied and have more vibe.
Really hoping they’re going to sort the effects out with an update. For now I’ll have to experiment with figuring out Pedals etc effects send and returns and see how that goes…
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we’re paying for the sample mangling and all the other stuff, i think. such as the capability to send OT material to outboard effects. problem solved, then?
you’re right, the FX are average at best. but usable…
we’re paying for the sample mangling and all the other stuff, i think. such as the capability to send OT material to outboard effects. problem solved, then?
you’re right, the FX are average at best. but usable… [/quote]
Not sure about you but I consider the effects as important a part of the machine as everything else, like every other sampler I’ve bought in last 7 or so years. so it’s also a part of what I paid for, along with the sample mangling. Some of the effects are useable like you say. lo-fi and spring reverb/dark reverb are nice. But I’ve yet to gel with any of the others. Modulation stuff tied to effects is fun, but it can start to sound very ‘samey/glitch by numbers’ if not careful. Updated effects would be great, but I knew the score before I bought the OT so I can’t bitch too much about it.
Every DSP has its limits, and OT’s DSP is actually pushing them. Digital effects on Analog-series boxes will always sound better, because, well, they’re analog for the most part and don’t rely on DSP nearly as much as the Octatrack. And for all the OT can do, I think the FX are amazingly good.
With that said, I still dream that one day I’ll wake up and see an OS update allowing delay and reverb on one track. Or the aforementioned dedicated filter track. Or… yeah, won’t happen. Guess FX sends on mixers are best friends of every owner of an Octatrack. 
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[quote=“Dayaoute”]One of the effects I find useless is the spatializer. I barely hear the difference with or without.
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Really ?
It’s one of the most obvious in my opinion : very interesting when you want to detach a bass line from the kick.
Hear a continuous sound with and without, with headphones.
Of course you HAVE to have a good stereo to really hear it.
But I feel like this FX is really well done. Totally deserves its name.[/quote]
Thanks for the tip about the kick and bass line, I’ll give it a shot.
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workable within a very finite range
some are totally unusable for me
nneed to bbbuy high end effect unit, help me, please… 
Eventide H8000/Orville → Kyma Pacarana → Eventide H7600 → Eventide H3000 → Kurzweil KSP8 → Eventide Eclipse → Ensoniq DP4 → Lexicon MPX1
This thread makes me happy that I ultimately decided on the RYTM over the Octatrack when trying to decide between the two.
To be fair, they really cover different ground. I wouldn’t be able to do what I do on the Octatrack with the RYTM and I’m sure it’s the same vice versa.
To be fair, they really cover different ground. I wouldn’t be able to do what I do on the Octatrack with the RYTM and I’m sure it’s the same vice versa. [/quote]
Yeah, fortunately I was only looking for a sample playback device with mojo, a good sounding reverb, and nice filters. I’m ok without the time-stretch, and other effects the OT has. It would be nice to be able to record audio with the RYTM, but I’m glad it has analog overdrive to make the samples I do get in there sound rough and aggressive. I wouldn’t want to buy an OT, and also have to buy another effects box to go with it in order to get things sounding the way I want.
To be fair, they really cover different ground. I wouldn’t be able to do what I do on the Octatrack with the RYTM and I’m sure it’s the same vice versa. [/quote]
Yeah, fortunately I was only looking for a sample playback device with mojo, a good sounding reverb, and nice filters. I’m ok without the time-stretch, and other effects the OT has. It would be nice to be able to record audio with the RYTM, but I’m glad it has analog overdrive to make the samples I do get in there sound rough and aggressive. I wouldn’t want to buy an OT, and also have to buy another effects box to go with it in order to get things sounding the way I want.[/quote]
That’s definitely the beauty of Elektron stuff. There’s very little overlap between products. I make ambient/textural/drone stuff and the Octatrack is great for that. With the RTYM I would have to work a bit harder to do the same, if I could do it all. A lot of resampling on the fly is involved as well. Usually the samples I’m loading in already have reverb on it, though I do like the dark reverb.
So, just thinking out loud here but… just because the OT MKII has the same OS doesn’t necessarily mean it has the same amount of DSP, does it? Might we get slightly better sounding FX, I wonder? 
I depends on what you need
They’re certainly not pristine. For me, they’re more useful than older MPC2000-1000-4000 effects.
I honestly don’t think there’s such a thing as “a bad effect”.
Some work, some don’t. It reAlly depends on the context.
yes they do, its called “1st” in the conditrigs menu 
IMO the OT fx is workable and you can cover a lot of ground by combining them. But then again, the new Boss **-500 series pedals blow everything else away in my world right now. An RV-500 would pair up wonderfully with an OT since you could plock it via MIDI too.
But what I love doing on the OT is building these odd resampler/looper/delay gizmos, and with the fx pallette at my disposal (and 8 tracks), I find I can almost always get what I’m looking for.
Like, why use a boring delay fx, I’d much rather blow 4 flex tracks and two recbuffers, add some filter and lofi, and build the delay taps by using record trigs and playback trigs add some retuning to some of the tracks playing back same buffers as another track, then make the recbuffers feed back into each other… Eventide aint got nuttin on me (love my H9 Max tho)
Elektron excels at making interfaces for simpler gear. not making effects algos or making analog reverb machines…
If you want good effects find a dedicated effect box.
Just like any gear there are differences among them. Some are intended for performance and others for more studio work.
The OTs effects are fantastic, especially when you use scenes to modulate them stacked up on neighbor machines.
I’ve never heard anything quite like it really.
I don’t know any other FX box where you can dial in a bunch of crazy “fade to grey” type of FX similar to Ableton Live.
The reverb sounds incredible, especially when resampled.
Sometimes I use the OT as an effects box for external gear without any samples at all. Any single effect in it may not be anything too exciting on its own but when you start using even 4 or 5 tracks, much less all 8, as parallel effects processors on the same input, controlling it all with plocks and scenes, I can get sounds I’d never have been able to tweak out of other hardware and never would have thought to patch up in software. Last show I played was almost entirely playing long, slow pads into the OT from a Casio CZ101, processing it through five parallel thru machines and one neighbor machine (with patterns mostly muting and unmuting individual tracks, plus using the cue out (in studio mode) as an aux send to an OTO BAM that was patched back in to inputs 3 and 4 and monitored directly . In retrospect I should have stuck with that for the whole set because it was by far the best part.
Anyhow, I like “bad” effects so maybe I’m not the best judge. I’ve also done whole sets with nothing but an old Roland EF303, a cheap keyboard and a looper. But at any rate, from a sound design perspective I’ll take depth of realtime control over “quality” any day. It’s nice to have one really good reverb to tie things together live, and when I’m mixing it’s a whole other story, but I don’t really see the OTs effects as mixing tools, I see them as synthesis/sound design tools and for that they’re great.
I’ve got a killer short live set that is basically the Monomachine running in song mode with a BBOX track running on separate outs to be processed by OT (all synth tracks from 
running to inputs AB, and the BBOX drums running to CD). Using just the thru/neighbor machines and heaps of scenes and the crossfader and the freeze-delay controls which I almost understand. No sampling on the OT, no patterns, just live performance effects. Super fun. And a nice aid in helping bring out the BBOX sounds stronger from the MM.
Ot can be an amazing effect box even without the 8x2 Track FX, using sampling /resampling.
You can sample inputs, play it directly on several tracks with lfos on pitch (Microtiming, Timestretch off, Invert Tri wave), to have a great chorus/flanger.
It can be a crazy delay with pitch, feedback if you record SRC3 Cue/Main/Tx.
Anything you can do with a good delay, but you can add 3 lfos per track.
YEAH, more fx! resonator, pleeze.
what sucks, that some of the fx are not in both slots. that I mean
is really a pickle.