OT and DN arranger

momodig · 2024-01-16T23:26:17.310Z

If I set up an arrangement on the OT (lets say drums) then I use the DN for bass and the DN will be slave. Will the DN follow the arrangements on the OT and change patterns and chains?

Thx

ViolentMeals · 2024-01-16T23:39:55.781Z

If you set it up so that OT sends Clock and Program Change and DN is set up to recieve these things on the appropriate channel, then yes, yes it will.

momodig · 2024-01-16T23:46:10.307Z

Thank you very much

momodig · 2024-01-16T23:50:21.617Z

One further thing. If my OT has say 20 arrangement chains, must the DN match that? if not how does it work?

ViolentMeals · 2024-01-16T23:58:19.807Z

momodig:

20 arrangement chains,

not sure i follow you here…

momodig:

must the DN match that?

If the DN is recieving the MIdi changes from the OT, it is going to make the changes the OT makes

momodig · 2024-01-17T01:03:59.827Z

I get you you, I have 25 changes on the OT and need 25 Changes in the DN so my score lines up (I’m probably usuing wrong terms… I’m talking about in the arrangement, when you assign patterns to play in certain order) I’m used to a ksp and call them chains.

Shredrr · 2024-01-17T01:44:49.983Z

there is indeed confusing words. Chains in OT terms are either entire Arrangements following each other or Patterns chaining to the next Pattern from where they chain to the next and so on, which is then called Chain Behaviour (with smallest possible pattern change in 2 steps, also the reason why you can not have a pattern play only 1 step and chain to another even in arranger).

The rows in arranger representing Pattern with certain extra properties (Number, Repeats, Transposition, BPM, Mute’s, etc) are indeed called Arrangement ROW.

Changing a pattern on the OT should trigger to expose their according Program Change number via Midi if it was turned on in the project. The program change numbers follow a simple math…
starting with (i think) 0 to 15 for the first 16 patterns in bank A.
Bank B will follow with 16 to 31…
Bank C then 32 to 47 and on and on…
So i expect (bare with me cause to lazy to test right know) that when the arranger goes thru its rows or you intentionally go to one of the rows which for sure have only one assigned pattern number and hit “yes” that your OT would expose the corresponding program change number with midi from where you can of course catch it with your DN.

The numbers should follow the fixed pattern scheme written above so the arranger with a wild sorting of patterns will also create a wild sorting of program change messages.

To avoid surprises it might be a good idea to test yourself… in example with snoize: MIDI Monitor and just change patterns on the OT and try to receive them and make sense of their number scheme, cause you will figure out there are limits to it to consider.