OP-1 field

I’m gassin’ :smiley:
Nice beat!

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I hope this is legit…

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I don’t know why I am not surprised but you already just bought OT and A4 no? :sweat_smile:

Nice price. I think I understand that some might drop the price a lot if they want to sell it quickly

yeah…doesn’t count though, I REbought them :wink:

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Gas wise I’m waiting for the email so I can buy the Woovebox. Will be great for handheld use when I can’t bring OP-1 Field. Very different, but deep synthesis and sequencing. Should compliment nicely I think.

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Been wondering a lot about that little box. The PO form factor, the deep options…
I’m trying to get a better idea of its sampling capabilities. But what a wonderful box indeed! Can’t wait to hear your review!

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I am curious now! Specifically to know what it brings vs OPZ for instance

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There were two guys selling theirs in the UK on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Woovebox/comments/17f9dgd/selling_woovebox_ukeurope/

One is already mine, on the way.

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Congrats! :slight_smile:
I am in Australia. Woovebox is from Australia. So it seems silly for me to source from UK. I can wait… a little bit :wink:

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OP-Z is brilliant. I know that. But it hasn’t really clicked with me too much. I was discussing this in the Woovebox thread on here, and I think it was Son Wu who said the OP-Z has ‘keys’ laid out in a normal arrangement. That’s a huge pro for the OP-Z. But Woovebox has way deeper sound editing and design. For me having a led digit display is far superior to the pure LED interface of OP-Z, and I’ve never enjoyed pairing with my phone. Eg I can adjust a parameter to 64, and the display says 64. OP-Z I’ll be dialing a knob and based on its colour of the led or the sound, that’s how I know. But I think the creator of the Woovebox who I believe had an OP-Z himself, had a very good point. He was saying (I think it was him) that OP-Z needs a surface to use it on. A table for example. Woovebox can be completely operated in your hands, like the smartphone I’m typing this on. So for me that’s a use case I think I’ll take advantage of - when I can only fit something in a pocket and I’m on a crowded train etc… the OP-1 Field is a bit cumbersome and OP-Z I had found awkward in my lap - but I’d never really made this connection before. Anyway we shall see.

Woovebox can do some wild things, like pass external audio through its envelopes filters and effects, so you could go midi out into something, and bring the audio back in but shape it further. Ivo used an example I somewhere about using a basic old Casio with no filters as a sound source, Wovebox can then take can audio and put filter envelope and effects on it from each midi note the Woovebox sends out from the Casio. I was doing this recently with my ARP2600 clone, and it’s super cool. But I can’t fit the 2600 in my pocket.

So for me, where ideas either start from noodling on the piano, or from sound design of a specific patch, I think the Woovebox will be more useful to me than the OP-Z.

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It is not legit if it is the same one I tried to buy from Reverb. I am currently waiting on Paypal to resolve my dispute. Reverb canceled my order. This person reposted it multiple times under different names.

I’d love to know if you actually did score that for that price!

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I’m paying import tax too due to Brexit, because I live in the EU, but at least I traded my Portablism SC500 with the man :slight_smile:

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I’m considering selling mine, but not at that ridiculous price… I think it must be a scam attempt.

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I wanna jump in on this topic since it’s been on my mind.

I have an OP-1F, OP-Z, M8 and did have a woovebox but pretty quickly parted with it.

I’m keeping the three devices above because they satisfy different desires, but unfortunately all seem to also have their downsides. Same with the Woovebox really, but I knew immediately that it’s downside was a dealbreaker for me (just for me personally!)

Woovebox
I will say, It took very little learning to start using this box, if you have experience with OP-Z, Pocket Operators or even other sequencers in general, you’ll probably pick this up alright.
It’s true, it seems rather limitless! It can absolutely be held in the hand and used while horizontal on the couch. It’s downfalls for me were lack of control (OP-Z and OP-1F have knobs!), I didn’t explore live recording so much, but just in general and in my own opinion, it was too much packed into that specific interface. Where a pocket operator gets away with it by being more single-function, the Woovebox I didn’t love. I think I liken it a lot to the Pre-OLED deluge, where it’s super feature packed, but a lot of things run through a really limited screen (IE. Deluge had the ability to import single cycle waveforms, but then I had to scroll through various folders to get to 100+ waveform names all on a 7 segment display, ooph it’s cumbersome) and the Woovebox felt like that at times, especially since at least the deluge benefitted from navigation via the pads. Anyway, it’s an amazing box I just honestly think if something so small is going to interface a lot with a screen, it should be a good screen, or no screen at all, like the OP-Z. It’s screen and the overall feel of the device/workflow were the reasons I couldn’t hang onto the Woovebox.

OP-Z
Basically, for a screenless layout I think the OP-Z offers ample visual feedback to clearly navigate around it’s interface. Yes it’s more difficult to use as a handheld device (but it’s not actually necessary to put it on a surface, it can be handheld, it’s just not suited to that).
I love the depth of the device, it makes pattern variation, pattern chaining, sound design, etc all very easy and simple. sometimes too simple, which leads to it’s downfall for me:
It sounds like the OP-Z almost always, and I just don’t love sampling with it. So I end up using it in a way that essentially implies I’m going to swap the sounds out with something else in the future. and that’s a bit of a bummer, but if you know that then it’s fun and you can let go of the sound being perfect until you later get into a DAW.

OP-1F
the field remedies some of the OP-Z sound stuff, as it’s a much better sampler (with the screen too) and really does sound great. But it comes with it’s downfalls as well. It DOES still sound like a TE product at heart. I just watched someone’s OP-1 Field video they posted and I laughed because it’s a good piece of music, but blindfolded I could tell you what OP-1F synth engines they used for what, they just have a unique sound that doesn’t allow for a whole lot of user flavor, unless you start getting very deep. I appreciate the screen, I appreciate the battery life, the price is high for what it is, but overall it’s actually a very function piece especially once you factor in a velocity sensitive keyboard, bluetooth midi, etc. It’s a keeper for me just on the basis of functionality.

the M8
Here is where things get really interesting. I felt like I would for sure not enjoy the M8, but when the B-stock version came out at $100 off, I jumped on it. I absolutely love it. It is what I hoped the Woovebox would be and more. It’s the sequencing power, sound design and just in general ease of use that really comes together as an excellent piece of gear. You can play it like you’d play with it in any position, and the screen provides all the necessary feedback with little to no confusion about where you are at/what you’re doing. It’s quick, but very enjoyable. I thought it would be like making music in Excel, but realistically it rarely feels like that. When it does though… that’s the only real downside for me. It’s touchscreen acting as a parameter edit is suuuuper nice, but it doesn’t have keys, knobs or anything like that. I don’t see a way to live record or live parameter edit. So, it does often feel more like sequencing, without the option of playing, which the TE kit allows both of those (sequencing and playing). I know how to sequence a gradual filter sweep, and I can ensure that it’s repeatable and exact everytime, or as random and variant as I’d like, but I have to admit SOMETIMES telling the computer how you want the filter swept is just not as satisfying and fuckin twisting that knob yourself, u know what i’m talking about.

conclusion
Overall, honestly I’d love something like the OP-1Field with sound engines, modulation options, effects, etc from the M8. I can get by with the existing OP-1Field sequencers actually, I find them suitable for me needs (though i’d like to be able to save sequences). But, if the OP-Z sequencer could be thrown into the mix, i wouldn’t complain. I think the expansiveness of Tape allows for really flexible sound design and song building, but i’d appreciate on-board sounds that are more flexible and color-neutral to start. I’d also appreciate the ability to live-record and record parameter changes instead of sequence them if I prefer. Ultimately, can anyone out here give us the sonic flexibility of the M8, but the formfactor/workflow of the OP-1 field with the OP-Z sequencer on board? please help me haha

for now, i’ll keep all three for the desires they fill, but damn if I didn’t think there was still a ‘perfect’ device out there :smiley:

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Resonant rhytms
Vibrant vocals

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17 new posts on the OP-1F thread today ?
I thought there was a new firmware. :frowning:

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Haha - me too!!!

Not that I have even used mine much since purchase! Wonder if anything major is on the horizon

I wish/hope something is, but just out of curiosity what is something major that TE could release?
like a realistic firmware upgrade

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Cuckoo said for him the OP-1 field is the best gear

If Cuckoo says that then it must be true. It would be great if he could do a countervideo to all the synthfluencers that are spreading hate on the device