I also enjoyed it. It was a casual friendly dive into functionality.
I like Tobias but they should have done a demo video starting with this: Ā« Hi, this is Cenk from Teenage Engineering and this is the OP-1 Field. Ā» Theyād sell way more despite the price.
I liked the fact that this was live. And Tobias took the time to answer a lot of questions
Absolutely. Cant praise Cenk enough. Elektrons biggest loss ever.
Iāve had some time to try and get the m8 to talk to the op-1f via USB. Audio from the m8 to the op-1f works from the get-go, the other way around does not, no matter what I did, just as before.
However, the op-1f can receive clock from the m8. In addition to configuring it on the shift+com midi menu (clock=in), you have to set the sync mode on the metronome page to midi sync. Other than that, I couldnāt get any midi functionality to work between the two. No idea if the op-1f or the m8 is the culprit. USB midi works flawlessly when I connect my linnstrument to the op-1f, but there is no audio involved in this case. And this might be a hint, as the op-1f might not recognize the m8 as a midi device, as seen on these pictures:
The op-1f also powers the linnstrument, which is great, and it charges the m8.
Trs midi i/o, just as on the m8, would have been a really useful addition to the op-1f. As of now, Iām content to use both devices on their own and maybe exchange a few song sketches between the two.
Iāve been trying syncing the two over midi as well and Iām getting the same result as youā¦
Not sure where the fault lies, but initially it feels like m8 is having issues over USB⦠what is your take away from this?
Thanks for confirming what I found. Iām not sure, I think Iāve read or heard before that midi on the m8 is more reliable via the trs i/o in comparison to its usb port. However, I just tested my m8 with my poly beebo (which is a USB midi host, but not a USB audio host), and everything midi worked fine and as expected. So I canāt really tell if the m8 or the op-1f is to blame, but I guess the culprit is the fact that both audio and midi is involved.
The op-1f has no problems if it only gets midi data via USB (tested with my linnstrument) and it has no problems getting only audio via USB (just tested with my fender mustang headphone guitar amp).
The m8 also has no problems when receiving midi from other midi hosts (tested with my poly beebo and linnstrument). So yeah, Iāve got no clue why the op-1f and m8 donāt get along as well as I expected.
My final 2 broadcasts
Hope some of you enjoyed these and sorry for all the ābackground noiseā if not
Not sure if I better post my OP-1 shit / music made with other gear in a separate topic, but since itās the Elektron forum and not an Elektron device that doesnāt feel right eitherā¦
Anyway, thanks for listening! Cheers
Thanks for trying this out. Yeah it is super frustrating because the Op1 has really cool sequencers and sounds. I personally would love to be able to use the M8 to send sync and transport and record a sequence from the Op1.
Not sure if that will ever be able to happen so I guess my second wish would be what you want - which is sequencing from the M8 and then synced sampling the result into the M8.
Donāt hesitate to create a topic where you post your music, there is certainly no harm in this, whatever the instrument used.
You are really talented, I enjoy your videos a lot, btw
Thanks for the support and kind words mate.
Iāll probably create one next time I have some jams.
Cheers!
Emailed the guys at Retrokits and they told me the Rk006 would work as a host between the Op1 and the M8. Op1 is USB MIDI class compliant, but it needs a host. The Rk006 is a super small host solution I may look into. Youād want to use TRS from the M8 though because for some reason the M8ās USB MIDI doesnāt send accurate data into the Rk006.
That said, this is the smallest cleanest way I have found to get these devices working in sync together. Could easily compose parts on the Op1 and sample into the M8 live playing, or use the Op1 sequencers to craft an idea and sample that into the M8. These are all use cases I would love to do, and this takes the Op1/F to another level, imo.
I got a chance to play with an OP-1 field today and wellā¦yep. I am smitten. It feels so good to use and sounds great as well.
Maybe Christmas will be good to me this year.
I did that this afternoon, actually, without seeing your post ā organizing a travel setup for a family reunion.
It works fine, and the OP-1F powers the RK-006, so thatās one less brick or battery to carry.
Thats awesome. I think this is a m8 usb midi issue and not one with the op1f. Hoping it gets sorted so you can have simple connections between the 2 devices.
Odd that itās a USB audio host but not a USB MIDI host. And that the OP-Z is the opposite.
I think @BassesAndPads is referring to the original op-1 here, which is not a USB audio host, itās just class compliant.
The op-1 field is both a USB midi and audio host.
Ah, got it. It seemed like a weird choice for the new one!
Iāve been playing around with the envelope (or rather transient shaper) of the drum sampler on the op-1f. I donāt know if itās just a honeymoon phase symptome my ears are experiencing, but the sound shaping potential is actually really flexible and can sound like a pretty decent compressor. Iāve never really used it on the og op-1, but Iāll see myself using it a lot on the op-1f. Putting just a little bit of random LFO on all the envelope parameters can really bring some or the drum kits to life (especially the acoustic ones) and is actually a viable solution to the lack of velocity sensitivity of the built-in keys (for me at least). Hihat patterns can benefit a lot from more extreme LFO settings, but kicks can end up pretty inconsistent when overdoing it.
Yeah, sorry I was referring to the OP1 original. But my thinking is that once I get this set up and find myself using it all the time, I will probably look into the Field since that shrinks the setup down once (hopefully) everything is working. In this case I think the M8 needs to be TRS for now, which makes a host still needed until that M8 usb MIDI issue gets figured out.