Only Octatrack support Timestretch for loops?

[Quassatio]

Thank you for your reply. I’m a bit frustrated with Elektron. I bought a Rytm MKll and was sure it was a real sampler. But it only supports one shots. I need a simple function - to add voice loops to my compositions. And for that I don’t want to buy Octatrack. I’m thinking about Digitakt, but it doesn’t support sample timestretch.

In general, Elektron does not have an ultimate grooveboox solution. How did Maschine Plus for example.

But I really liked Model:Cycles. This would be ideal. If only it had more tracks, sample support and time stretching.

[pselodux]

@Quassatio

I’m thinking about Digitakt, but it doesn’t support sample timestretch.

It does, since the recent update that added “machines”.

[Microtribe]

@Quassatio

I bought a Rytm MKll and was sure it was a real sampler

8 voice analogue drum computer and sampler.
No mention of timestretch function in its feature set. Pretty sure there never has been,

Elektron

[Quassatio]

You are sure? There is no word in the manual “Timestretch”

[Quassatio]

I already understood it. It was a quick impulse buy. And I thought that anything called a sampler was capable of working with loops, not just with one shots )))

[Microtribe]

Its called warp on the digitakt

Digitakt OS 1.50

[elektronauts-machines] Machines. The Digitakt way. As found in Octatrack, Model:Cycles or Syntakt, the concept of Machines has now also reached Digitakt. There are now several new ways to play back your sweet samples. This new OS 1.50 Upgrade brings four different Machines, all with their own different flavor. Repitch for automatic classic beat-matching, Werp for a little quirky old-school way of time warping, and Slice - to chop up your audio and placing the pieces back in any order you li…

[Microtribe]

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[Quassatio]

Thank you for helping me to figure it out. I think it’s worth buying digitakt and trying. Now my setup looks like this. But I’m tired of Maschine Plus. I want to build everything on Elektron.

[pidgeo]

yea digitakt is great for loops now. it’s a pseudo-timestretch. old school vibes. real fast workflow. lovely stuff.

[Microtribe]

@Quassatio

worth buying digitakt and trying

Possibly.
I ascribe to try before you buy. Which makes things difficult depending on where you live.

You may not like the digitakt warp algorithm. Just as I dont like the octatrack timestretch algorithm, so I rarely use it, if ever. Timestretch is always OFF in my octatrack projects.

Theres also Roland SP404 which I have not tried, and Koala sampler app, which is exceptional, if you like apps on ios.

[Quassatio]

It sounds reasonable. I received an exhaustive answer to my question. Thank you, friend. Because you spent your time and helped me.

[thoughtstarZ]

@Microtribe

Timestretch is always OFF in my octatrack projects.

Same here. I just record things at the speed I’m going to play them at. If I wanted to do proper timestretching, I would load it into Bitwig.

@pidgeo

old school vibes.

This may be what your looking for tho.

[Udi9]

@kaustik did a great video that might help you

Elektron Rytm Time Stretching Tutorial using Velocity and Retrigger

[jeroen020]

I’ve used this technique a couple of times. It works, but of course is way more cumbersome than it should be. Rytm deserves the Warp machine too!

Here are some notes I made based on the video:

1. Open SMPL menu on the right, have looped sample open

2. Have a trig 1, hold trig 1, arrow up for retrigger menu, arrow up again to enable retrig
   2a. Set rate to 1/32; set Len (encoder D) to 16 (16 steps)

3. Go trig, velocity (enc B) set to max 127. Go to retrig menu again, now has velocity ramp option (enc H) set to -128 (minimum)

4. Go to sound menu (Func+Mute) then Sound Settings, Parameter Velocity to Vol -> set to Off

5. Underneath is Velocity Mod, open that menu, image shows this on the left.
   5a. Note: Velocity cannot be 0, sample start happens at 1. This requires negative modulation.
   5b. Set first parameter (enc A) to SAMP START (sample start) and set value underneath (enc E) to -120

6. Exit menu and go to SMPL page again and set start parameter (Enc E) to 119
   6a. Bonus: also set end of sample to 120 in velocity mod setup (tiny bits of samples). Turn on loop (Enc G) in SMPL menu, and increase retrig from to 1/80 -> robotic effect
   6b. Tip: for 16 (instead of 4) bar samples: You just need to change the velocity ramp accordingly. Instead of setting the ramp to -127 you set it to -32 and set the base velocity of the trigger to 32 as well. You might need to fiddle around with the settings a bit but it should work!

[LCVL]

@Quassatio

But I really liked Model:Cycles. This would be ideal. If only it had more tracks, sample support and time stretching.

And four wheels…

[ARVE]

@jeroen020

Rytm deserves the Warp machine too!

Absolutely!

[jeroen020]

For anyone reading this thread who hasn’t done so already - you can mail feature-request@elektron.se to suggest Warp machine for Rytm (or anything else you find important). If they hear it from enough people, who knows…

[Quassatio]

@LCVL

And four wheels…

We all understand that Elektron can do it. It’s just not economically viable. Marketing is built on the fact that users buy different tools )))

[Quassatio]

@jeroen020

Rytm deserves the Warp machine too!

I think anything called Sampler deserves Warp machine ))))

[Quassatio]

Thanks for the instruction. But we understand that this is all dancing with a tambourine and working through the ass.