Octatrack MIDI and Scenes problems

Vasilis · 2014-01-29T12:58:06.000Z

Hello everyone

After switching OT on after 1 month I faced two problems.
First,some midi controlled sounds implement a type of lfo,either by sweeping the volume or by adding random notes at random intervals.
I have all lfos at zero and when the same pattern played on the external synth,doesn’t appear to have this kind of “effect”.All the ccs also are at zero values.

And second,when I mute the scenes,it actually mutee the whole output.So I either have the samples playing qithout scenes,or the opposite.
And the most frustrating us the I m playing a gig on friday…

Thanks in advance

Vas

miketheman · 2014-01-30T15:47:59.000Z

""Vasilis"":

Hello everyone

After switching OT on after 1 month I faced two problems.
First,some midi controlled sounds implement a type of lfo,either by sweeping the volume or by adding random notes at random intervals.
I have all lfos at zero and when the same pattern played on the external synth,doesn’t appear to have this kind of “effect”.All the ccs also are at zero values.

And second,when I mute the scenes,it actually mutee the whole output.So I either have the samples playing qithout scenes,or the opposite.
And the most frustrating us the I m playing a gig on friday…

Thanks in advance

Vas

I´m not sure if I´m following you here.

Are we talking about MIDI control of audio tracks or about MIDI control of external gear (with OT MIDI tracks)?
Are you sampling the external synth, and/or just route its audio thru your OT? Is the OT controlling your external synth (via MIDI)?

Does all of this happen if you startover and create an new project?

Slaughtrhaus · 2014-01-31T14:17:59.000Z

""miketheman"":

[quote=“Vasilis”]Hello everyone

After switching OT on after 1 month I faced two problems.
First,some midi controlled sounds implement a type of lfo,either by sweeping the volume or by adding random notes at random intervals.
I have all lfos at zero and when the same pattern played on the external synth,doesn’t appear to have this kind of “effect”.All the ccs also are at zero values.

And second,when I mute the scenes,it actually mutee the whole output.So I either have the samples playing qithout scenes,or the opposite.
And the most frustrating us the I m playing a gig on friday…

Thanks in advance

Vas

I´m not sure if I´m following you here.

Are we talking about MIDI control of audio tracks or about MIDI control of external gear (with OT MIDI tracks)?
Are you sampling the external synth, and/or just route its audio thru your OT? Is the OT controlling your external synth (via MIDI)?

Does all of this happen if you startover and create an new project?
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I have experienced this phenomena as well. When Midi sequencing my Sub Phatty from the OT and running the Sub into a Thru track. Basically, I turned off the OT and went to sleep, then woke up and turned on the same project, same settings on everything and bam wtf???
It sounded like an LFO had been added somewhere, but none had. It was basically a low-speed volume wobble, that just made it sound like bad automation had been applied where none had. I manually turned off every effect and LFO in the project but still couldn’t get rid of it. I also tried assigning new thru tracks, and copying the sequence to another midi track as well, to no avail. I also verified it wasn’t the Sub P.
My only eventual ‘workaround’ was to literally give up on the project and start over. I never figured out what the real problem was, chalked it up to not fully understanding the OT yet, and moved on.
It sounds like the same problem, so I thought I would mention it. It hasn’t happened again. I have not experienced the scene problem, either.

@OP-I hope you get it working before your gig.

the_dreammer · 2014-01-31T14:53:06.000Z

So if I get this straight:
you midi-sequence a synth… and send that synth back to your octa.
So you got a midi-track and an audiotrack.

While setting this up… you probably had hold-part of envelope of audiotrack on infinity.
while playing you turned this back… and nothing really happend… atleast you did not hear it straight away…
Now you turned off octatrack. some time later turned it back on…
and suddenly you do hear a difrence in the sound, because your octatrack starts of
with the envelope settings as what they where left at… (which is not infinite)

I am not claiming it IS the answer… but I would definatly recheck the hold/release envelope settings of the audiotrack eating the input of your synth…
I had simular experiences, but with attack of filter… Only really heard it after

reboot
when I stopped sequencer (first stop-button press) and stopping the audio-engine (dubble-press stop)

Enjoy…

glaciertree · 2014-01-31T18:13:27.000Z

I may have seen this as well. I had a MIDI track controlling external gear, thru track for the audio. I don’t remember the circumstances, because I assumed I had messed something up. I think I might have shut down or switched projects then back. And I had no audio. I could see the AB lights that the audio was coming in. Then after a while, when I was trying different things, the sound came back. Not sure what I did that made it work again.

Vasilis · 2014-02-04T11:39:10.000Z

Thank you for the answer
In my case though,I only control the midi,dont send it through octatrack. Therefore,I suppose it’s the Midi and not the sound emvelope(if I got you right)

Athaphian · 2017-10-13T05:21:34.850Z

Did you find out what caused the scene button behaviour. I have a similar problem.

Vasilis · 2018-04-12T22:41:50.868Z

Hi

I did an upgrade and then it stopped messing up. I hope it worked for you too.

Athaphian · 2018-04-13T06:09:20.546Z

My unit was defective, so I returned it and received a new one. Been fine ever since.