A while back a few of us did some generation loss experiments on the OT, feels relevant to link the thread here Testing the quality of re-sampling on the DT - #8 by knobgoblin
Fairly sure @sezare56 summarised those that do something even on âneutralâ
The only one that was extreme enough to notice for myself is LOFI - if thatâs in the slot the sound is noticeably coloured even with everything down.
But just learning that the filter does something subtle was useful because it means when Iâm really bothered I can set the slot to NONE and just get one with it - and thatâs where these investigations benefit even those with no technical curiosity because it can remove any lingering doubts, help establish work patterns and free up mental CPU so you can just get on
Iâm even feeling that tiny bit of Digitakt envy about the âniceâ coloring slipping away as I typeâŚ
Great to hear though!
There is an old trick that studio engineers used to deal with fussy clients who would keep wanting changes, for example more reverb on the snare, or more bass, theyâd have a unused knob on the mixer and adjust that, each time asking âhow about that?â and each time slightly grimacing as if to say âwe are really at the limit nowâ until the client would say âahh yes, that is much betterâ.
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Love this. But five? Rytm, Four, Digitone, Digitakt, Model:Samples, Model:Cycles makes six right? Or are you dropping the Analogs for the Digitone Keys? Iâm not trying to be pedantic here! Just genuinely interested in which ones have the exact same reverb 
And yes, I agree, people can tell themselves all sorts of (actually untrue) things once they get on a certain train of thought regarding audio.
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I was just about to write exactly the same thing only focusing on live events because that is where my experience comes from. The mind is very powerful and is tricking us on so many levels. Personal preference will color anything, a true objective perspective is almost impossible to achieve.
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The Four has a slightly different reverb IIRC, and I didnât count the Digitone Keys.
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Yes, this is so true. But how about when you really want to love the Octatrack, but the sound just doesnât work for you? Thatâs reverse bias, and that was my case. I wasnât trying to pull it apart, looking for low quality, but constantly trying to ignore, what it did to the sounds. I never read about others feeling the same, before researching, based on my frustration.
But, as mentioned above somewhere, Iâm pretty sure itâs not the converters, but rather the processing of sound, when you start to mangle.
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One of my favorite subtle master sweeteners is the filter fully open, with resonance turned up to 10 oâclock.
Post compressor. 
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So true, like all those chumps who spend thousands on modular gear, convincing themselves that their beeps and bloops are somehow so profound!
Oh waitâŚ
@darenager has left the chat.
@darenager has checked himself into rehab.
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By âMasterâ are you referring to the track level, main output, or track src page amp vol?
When AD/DA converters first appeared many years ago (I think first manufactured by Sony) the head of a well known Hi-Fi turntable company stated that he would always be able to distinguish sound that had been passed through converters.
He was invited to take part in a blind test which he agreed to do.
The test basically consisted of a audio going straight from source (presumably a turntable) to amp and speakers with a by-pass switch, which when operated fed the source via AD and DA converters and then onto the amp and speakers.
The guys running the test expected a roughly 50/50 result, i.e. correct half of the time and incorrect half of the time meaning the difference was indistinguishable.
The actual result was that the guy taking the test was wrong most of the time. The people performing the test realised that the person taking the test could hear the bypass switch being operated so they changed it to be inaudible to the person taking the test.
When they repeated the test the result was as they expected.
I suspect this story can still be found somewhere on the internet.
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Thatâs some great trivia.
I didnât try them all with below technique, but yes Lofi is very noticeable with neutral setttings. Filter too, especially when overdubing with Flex (resampling more than 20 times and itâs really obvious, sound gets horrible).
An efficient way to check which effects affects sound : play the same sample on 2 tracks, using 2 different slots, and reverse the phase of one sample iteration (Audio Editor > Edit > Invert Channels).
No fx at first, the sound is canceled. Change fx on 1 track, if you here something, it affects the sound.
Btw it would be interesting to use that to check ADDA conversion. Same level, no offset, not easy.
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The original quote is that the main output knob applies gain to the signal past 3 oâclock. Itâs mentioned by HAGEIR about halfway through this page, but this wasnât the original thread I had read⌠just the one that showed up when I tried to find it again via google. Good info in this thread for machinedrum gain staging though!
I appreciate the link but it looks like the post is relating to the MD not the OT which explains some of my confusion.
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Yes, sorry. I got a bit side tracked there
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No worries. 